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Old 10-28-2020, 01:36 AM   #1
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RAM 1500 towing capacity

Hi everyone!
Have a question. Just got a new RAM 1500 crew cab. Ramtrucks site lists the towing capacity as 11,509lbs
when I look up my VIN on ramtrucks towing guide

2021 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4
5.7L V8 HEMIģ MDS VVT eTorque Engine
8 speed automatic 8hp75 transmission
3.92 Axle ratio
Class IV tow hitch (Owners manual says Class IV max is 12,750lbs)

But A popular RV dealer site lists the tow capacity as 6460lbs when I use their VIN lookup.

Iím thinking the RV site is looking at the base specs with 3.21 Axles.

Who should I trust? Dealer says max tow is 11,509 too.

From the door sticker
GVWR is 7100lbs
GAWR Front is 3800lbs
GAWR Rear is 4100lbs
GCWR isnít listed and canít find on the RAM site for 2021 models.

Iím inclined to believe the dealer site especially since class IV is rated at 127500, this particular engine is also rated the same.

Curios if anyone knows? Or knows a better way to look up. I think the ramtrucks.com towing site VIN lookup would be the better source.

Thanks
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:26 AM   #2
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Old 10-28-2020, 03:05 AM   #3
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RAM 1500 towing capacity

I agree go with the Ram site. I generally suggest you pay very little attention to the RV salesman. Much more at stake if the Ram site is wrong.

And by the way that low number is way too low to be reasonable.
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:41 PM   #4
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The sticker on the driver's door frame is the definitive value for that individual truck. It is Federally mandated and calculations are for the most part consistent across mfg's. Next best would be to look up by VIN in mfg tables.

Both values need to be adjusted for weight of absolutely everything added to the truck after it left the factory. Even required after market hitches and and receivers must be included. Overweight driver's also.

For smaller trucks and SUV's, you can often calculate towing capacity from cargo capacity or from MGVW - Dry or Unloaded weight.

First figure cargo capacity. Then subtract weight of passengers, luggage, equipment, after market add-ons, etc. The remainder is available for tongue weight.

Actual weights are what matter, but you can estimate. Tongue weight must be at least 10% of TT actual weight for safe towing. So, multiply remaining cargo weight by 10 for maximum towing capacity. 15% tongue weight will be more stable. Published tongue weights are often wrong. I have seen dry tongue weights at double the published value.

Yes, actual towing capacity can be substantially lower than sticker or advertised towing capacity. Shocking isn't it.

I wish you good luck and happy trails ahead!
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:49 PM   #5
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"Class IV tow hitch (Owners manual says Class IV max is 12,750lbs)"

This may be the max weight for the hitch receiver, not the truck.

"Ramtrucks site lists the towing capacity as 11,509lbs
when I look up my VIN on ramtrucks towing guide"

So this means TT MGVW when there are no passengers, luggage, bed liners, caps, undercoat, camping equipment, weight distribution hitch, after market hitch receiver, etc. Possibly tongue weight may be no more than 1,151 pounds.

Do the math.

I wish you good luck and happy trails ahead!
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:43 PM   #6
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:51 PM   #7
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Go drive to the nearest scale with your family who would normally travel with you camping, and get a weight. Subtract that weight from the 7100 GVWR number. That determines how much trailer you can tow. Every Thing Else is meaningless!!!!!

Payload / .13 (13%) equals the GVWR of the trailer it can tow with 13% tongue weight. So lets say you have 765 pounds payload left over from GVWR. 765/.13=5885. There you go, now you know.
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Persistent and acdii have provided excellent advice for how much your light duty truck can manage. Rated "towing capacity" is kind of a misleading marketing term for light duty vehicles. The payload capacity is what determines if that vehicle can safely tow the camper, and the camper represents a lot of payload in the form of tongue weight.
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It really doesn't matter what the towing capacity is, that number is, at best, a mirage. The only real number that matter is cargo carrying capacity. A quick way to see what your truck can really tow is to read the sticker on the door jamb that states cargo capacity. I will use my truck and trailer as an example.

CCC=1540#
Trailer=6000#loaded
Tongue Wt=~720# (approximately12% which is ideal)
1540-720=820# of excess cargo capacity for passengers, load in bed and a safety margin.
If you tell us you numbers we can help in a more substantial manner. BTW use the GVW for the trailer NOT the UVW as no one tows an empty trailer. If these numbers aren't readily available a trip to the scale can be helpful.
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