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Old 10-30-2018, 07:32 PM   #1
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Thinking about trading in my 2012 Chevy 3500 Silverado LTZ for a 2018 Tradesman 3500 RAM.


The Chevy needs to be towed to a dealer because of a no start condition. I don't really want to endure the parts replacement/elimination dance with the dealer so a new truck is the thought process.


I'll still be pulling the Voltage 3800 so I'm wondering who uses the RAM for this purpose.
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Tow my 20k 3990 with my 2018 Ram 3500 dually and love it, wouldn't trade it for anything. Make sure and get the 4.10 and Aisan tranny.
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Tow my 20k 3990 with my 2018 Ram 3500 dually and love it, wouldn't trade it for anything. Make sure and get the 4.10 and Aisan tranny.

I'll keep that in mind.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:47 AM   #4
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That's Allison transmission. The latest is an 8 speed.
Without a doubt go diesel, Cummins or Duramax.
Yes the Dual Rear Wheels make it easier on the axle and tires when you put a 3000 lb "point load" on the hitch with a Voltage 3800.

My 2011 Silverado, 3500, Duramax, Allison, dualie, 4X4, Crew Cab has, 3.** gears in the rear axle. Amazing I can be going up hill, in cruise control, and the cars that find they can't pass me gives lots of laughs. I drive mine in "parking alert OFF", "Exhaust Brake ON', transmission Tow Mode ON and it does just great. Pulling the Voltage, about 8 MPG.

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That's Allison transmission. The latest is an 8 speed.
Without a doubt go diesel, Cummins or Duramax.
Yes the Dual Rear Wheels make it easier on the axle and tires when you put a 3000 lb "point load" on the hitch with a Voltage 3800.

My 2011 Silverado, 3500, Duramax, Allison, dualie, 4X4, Crew Cab has, 3.** gears in the rear axle. Amazing I can be going up hill, in cruise control, and the cars that find they can't pass me gives lots of laughs. I drive mine in "parking alert OFF", "Exhaust Brake ON', transmission Tow Mode ON and it does just great. Pulling the Voltage, about 8 MPG.

Just my thoughts,

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Thanks for your thoughts Pirate but as stated earlier I already own a 2012 Silverado LTZ 3500 with the Duramax 6.6 and Allison tranny with the 3.78 gears. It's sick and I'm entertaining the thought of trading it for a new RAM diesel.
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Old 11-01-2018, 02:30 AM   #6
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I had a Ford F250 in which my trailer ended up pulling the truck. It was scary going up or down hills. I bought a 2016 Ram 3500 dually with the diesel turbo and trailer package to pull my 3605 VOLTAGE which is around 20,000 lbs. Best decision I ever made. I installed a leveling kit in the front and mounted off road 35" tires on the stock rims. Looks great and hardly feel the trailer behind me. In the future I'm going to install a chip to match my transmission shift points to stock and get better gas mileage.
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Thinking about trading in my 2012 Chevy 3500 Silverado LTZ for a 2018 Tradesman 3500 RAM.


The Chevy needs to be towed to a dealer because of a no start condition. I don't really want to endure the parts replacement/elimination dance with the dealer so a new truck is the thought process.


I'll still be pulling the Voltage 3800 so I'm wondering who uses the RAM for this purpose.

I have a 2016 RAM 3500 Cummins that I pull my fifth wheel with. Combined weight about 23,000. I have had no issues at all.


To clear up the transmission confusion this is not an Allison trans. It is Asin. More info. Aisin Seiki is the maker of the AS68RC and AS69RC Ram automatic transmissions. Aisin AW was a joint venture between Borg-Warner and Aisin Seiki, created in 1969. ... Aisin AW is the largest producer of automatic transmissions in the world.


Today the automatic transmissions will take more abuse than the manual so the automatics are turned up further.


Manual trans: 350 HP 660 on torque
68RFE auto 370HP 850 on torque
Asin auto 385HP 930 torque (starting this year)





I don't have the Asin. I have the 68RFE. The advantages with the Asin is that the engine is turned up a little further but people report fuel milage suffers a little. The downside an extra $2,500. Fluid change required every 15,000 if you are towing a lot.


My truck has 54,000 on it so far and has been perfect. No complaints at all.
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That's Allison transmission. The latest is an 8 speed.
Without a doubt go diesel, Cummins or Duramax.
Yes the Dual Rear Wheels make it easier on the axle and tires when you put a 3000 lb "point load" on the hitch with a Voltage 3800.

My 2011 Silverado, 3500, Duramax, Allison, dualie, 4X4, Crew Cab has, 3.** gears in the rear axle. Amazing I can be going up hill, in cruise control, and the cars that find they can't pass me gives lots of laughs. I drive mine in "parking alert OFF", "Exhaust Brake ON', transmission Tow Mode ON and it does just great. Pulling the Voltage, about 8 MPG.

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Thanks for your thoughts Pirate but as stated earlier I already own a 2012 Silverado LTZ 3500 with the Duramax 6.6 and Allison tranny with the 3.78 gears. It's sick and I'm entertaining the thought of trading it for a new RAM diesel.
You both have 3.73 gears.

Not familiar with the Rams but while 4.10 gears would pull the heck out of anything, it's going to DRINK fuel. So if this is going to also be your daily driver, you may want to take that into consideration.
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Doesn't make much difference now. The RAM looks good but my Chevy lives.
No major mechanical failure caused it to be towed to the dealer. What is was a critter decided to eat wires and a tank nipple and hose to the DEF tank. New tank, wiring harness, heater and oil change and 925 duckies and it's back on the road.
40k miles on the Chevy yielded a 36K dollar trade in value against the RAM. Still thinking though, buy a new truck or have the old one detailed. Decisions, decisions.
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Old 11-07-2018, 11:20 PM   #10
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2016 tradesman single rear wheel. 6 speed 68rfe with 3.42 rear end. Package 2fa with trailer brake control and exhaust brakes stock.
Pulls a 3990 2014 3 axle voltage. No issues.
Outputs more than 6.0 Ford and 7.3 I had.
Yes a dual rear is better. But unfortunately I only use my trailer 6 times a year..cant sell it. No one has a truck to pull it or needs one that big.
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