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Old 09-11-2014, 12:34 AM   #1
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I'm trying to determine if my trailer has more than one GFI outlet. The only one I can find is in the bathroom next to the sink. My problem is I've got now power to the exterior outlet. I've reset every breaker and pulled and put all fuses back in. Any other ideas?

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Old 09-11-2014, 01:25 AM   #2
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Hi Kirk and welcome to the forum. You might pull the receptacle and see if a wire has come loose. Otherwise try and start at the outlet and start working your way back to the converter. Somewhere, somehow, something is loose or disconnected.
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Old 09-11-2014, 01:29 AM   #3
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I've had a similar problem. I had lost 3 outlets that were not protected by the GFI. Ended up there was a loose wire in one of the breakers. Take your time and check everything. I also had a loose wire in the GFI itself.
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Thanks guys. I'm taking it out this weekend, so I guess I'll be tearing it apart in between football games
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It would be interesting to know who trained the "electricians" that wire our campers.

Amazing that they all aren't burning down. The wiring practices used in campers, would be condemned in a stick built house.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:02 AM   #6
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It would be interesting to know who trained the "electricians" that wire our campers.

Amazing that they all aren't burning down. The wiring practices used in campers, would be condemned in a stick built house.
At the risk of sounding like an "old fa_t," which I am, let me say a few words about today's youth. They did not learn electric circuits, electronics, or physics, as we did in high school of the 60's. They have no logic. (Spock was a humorous character to us in the 70's). Their school curricula has been too burdened with social studies.
I'm willing to bet none of these camper-assemblers could trace a hot wire from circuit breaker to load and return. I'm sure the concept of "ground" completely escapes them. They got their job on popularity, and do what they are told, blindly.
RVs and Campers are one of the few remaining American-built products. Based on the discussions here, the future is dim. They cannot, and will not even produce a wiring diagram of how they even PLANNED to build it. The manufacturers would like to find craftsmen in their own image, but our country no longer produces them.
Soon, they'll be built in China like everything else, and shipped over here.
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At the risk of sounding like an "old fa_t," which I am, let me say a few words about today's youth. They did not learn electric circuits, electronics, or physics, as we did in high school of the 60's. They have no logic. (Spock was a humorous character to us in the 70's). Their school curricula has been too burdened with social studies.
I'm willing to bet none of these camper-assemblers could trace a hot wire from circuit breaker to load and return. I'm sure the concept of "ground" completely escapes them. They got their job on popularity, and do what they are told, blindly.
RVs and Campers are one of the few remaining American-built products. Based on the discussions here, the future is dim. They cannot, and will not even produce a wiring diagram of how they even PLANNED to build it. The manufacturers would like to find craftsmen in their own image, but our country no longer produces them.
Soon, they'll be built in China like everything else, and shipped over here.
Don't get me started!
I have earned every grey whisker I got and damn proud of 'em. But the problem lies with the production methods used by Dutchmen and the rest of the short cut manufacturers.

The reason that there is a shortage of young people in skilled trades, is they are brain washed into believing that the only way to make it in life is to get a degree. I'm proud of my son, he didn't fall for the hype and went into a trade. He had been a journeyman for fifteen years when I retired. Fifteen years in the trade, he was making more than I was in a career that lasted 35 years in the same company, and his student loans were paid off in a year and a half. Seems tradesmen are worth more than people that us their brain.

Take a look on youtube for videos showing how these things get shoved down the line. There are those manufacturers that use actual wire harnesses, then there is the Dutchmen method.

Might be an improvement having campers made in China, then they would have to comply with North American standards, not just say they do.
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Back to the problem at hand...

Your outside power outlet SHOULD be downline from the GFCI in the bathroom, along with any power outlet that is next to a sink aka kitchen counter area. That is code, are they wired that way? Who knows.

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Back to the problem at hand...

Your outside power outlet SHOULD be downline from the GFCI in the bathroom, along with any power outlet that is next to a sink aka kitchen counter area. That is code, are they wired that way? Who knows.

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CODE?????? In an RV? I'd need to see where any code is applicable.
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CODE?????? In an RV? I'd need to see where any code is applicable.
Read NFPA-70 (NEC)
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CODE?????? In an RV? I'd need to see where any code is applicable.
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Read NFPA-70 (NEC)
RVIA too... which uses NEC/NFPA/ANSI etc. Now how many manufacturers adhere to those standards?

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I have another breaker in the kitchen and the only way I found it, was to do the slide out and it was behind the cabinet.
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