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Old 10-04-2018, 01:38 AM   #1
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Hello all,
We just moved from Tampa to Ohio. We will be living in are camper until around January. I have never been in temps around freezing. So not sure what all I need to do to keep the pipes and stuff from freezing while living in the camper. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 10-04-2018, 01:45 AM   #2
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Hello all,
We just moved from Tampa to Ohio. We will be living in are camper until around January. I have never been in temps around freezing. So not sure what all I need to do to keep the pipes and stuff from freezing while living in the camper. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 10-04-2018, 11:34 AM   #3
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hmmm... an escapee! Welcome to the forum. Tell us what type of camper you have and if it is an "all weather" unit. Take a few pictures of the gray and black tank area (to see if you have the exposed type of the type that is in the belly).
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Old 10-05-2018, 06:40 AM   #4
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Iíll try to up load some pics tomorrow. I have a Dutchmen kodiak 264rlsl ultra light express 2016.

Iím pretty sure I donít have a winter package. All my tanks are under that black corrugated plastic. My grey water line and a few inches of the black tank line are exposed.
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Old 10-05-2018, 12:19 PM   #5
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I can tell you, from my experience, everything will freeze if you don't take the proper precautions. IF you unit is an all weather unit, that means, to 32 degrees. I can tell you what I did and you can take it from there.

First, the gray and black tank, if there is any water in the outlet, it will freeze, water in the sewer line, will freeze so if you leave your gray tank valve open (like most do), your sewer line will freeze so you will need to close your gray valve.

Second, I purchased heated water hoses. I found they worked really well.

Third, I purchased a heater for the water line at the campground or you can go on internal tanks for your water.

forth, all my water connections enter the rv in the bathroom area. I have a heater set on high (oil filled radiator type) that I leave in the bathroom when the temp drops WAY below freezing-like 20 and below.

fifth, I place heat lamps under the RV to help heat the underbelly near the fresh water tank and the black and gray tank area. I used one last year under the sewer outlet but it did not do any good. My tank valve was seeping and water got into the hose and froze.

There are many more things you can do, I have a TT but a 5ver, there are places to put heaters that will help lots. SNOW, that's a different issue, do you have slide covers?
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:17 PM   #6
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Sorry for the slow reply. Kids, Dogs, Life!

Thanks for the info. It will definitely help. I donít have a slide topper. If the snow hits I was thinking I could tarp it with sand bags making it tight.

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Thank you for the info.
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:46 PM   #7
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Bay79,
Frank is correct. Everything containing water outside or underneath is going to freeze. The belly cover will help but is not protection enough for Ohio. It needs sealing and insulating. Tanks need heaters. The water heater will freeze if the power goes off or propane runs out.
A water line in my Kodiak Cub underbelly froze within 2 hours of the temperature dropping below 32 degrees.
It took more than $2000 and endless hours of mods to seal, insulate, and heat the underbelly. The fresh, black and grey water tank drain valves still freeze even with tank heaters on.
I only spend a few days at a time living in mine. I have tested the mods with nights down to 20 degrees F. Tank valves thawed with day time temperatures above 40 degrees. December and January in Ohio is going to be a lot colder than that.
Some TT's have remote drain valves so they can be located in a heated space. Mine are not. I successfully used a hair dryer to thaw my fresh and gray water drain valves once. I don't want to do that often.
One other post recommended dumping RV antifreeze in the toilet every time it is used to keep the drain open. However, RV antifreeze is not designed to be diluted and does not necessarily remain liquid at low temperatures. It will not expand and break things, but may turn to slush or hard.
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I can tell you, from my experience, everything will freeze if you don't take the proper precautions. IF you unit is an all weather unit, that means, to 32 degrees. I can tell you what I did and you can take it from there.

First, the gray and black tank, if there is any water in the outlet, it will freeze, water in the sewer line, will freeze so if you leave your gray tank valve open (like most do), your sewer line will freeze so you will need to close your gray valve.

Second, I purchased heated water hoses. I found they worked really well.

Third, I purchased a heater for the water line at the campground or you can go on internal tanks for your water.

forth, all my water connections enter the rv in the bathroom area. I have a heater set on high (oil filled radiator type) that I leave in the bathroom when the temp drops WAY below freezing-like 20 and below.

fifth, I place heat lamps under the RV to help heat the underbelly near the fresh water tank and the black and gray tank area. I used one last year under the sewer outlet but it did not do any good. My tank valve was seeping and water got into the hose and froze.

There are many more things you can do, I have a TT but a 5ver, there are places to put heaters that will help lots. SNOW, that's a different issue, do you have slide covers?
by the way, the old trick of leaving your water trickle to keep it moving will NOT work. Fills up your gray tank and it freezes anyway. I managed to survive -5 degrees below with 50 mph winds with no damage and minimal frozen "stuff" because of all the junk I set up. It can be done but that being said, my RV has a "heated" underbelly and limited things out in the cold. I purchased faucet covers and put them on the fresh tank drain, the hot and cold system drains. They seemed to work some.

https://www.ruralking.com/duck-produ...waAtTHEALw_wcB


this is my heated hose..

https://www.cheshirehorse.com/pirit-...oaAnvzEALw_wcB

and I bought one of these for the RV park's faucet and wrapped it...

https://www.lowes.com/pd/EasyHeat-AH...-Cable/1069433

because if you burst the water pipe for the park, they charge you to fix it... LOTS! i also purchased a hot water heater blanket and put it around my water softener and the park's faucet to keep the heat in. I used the second outlet in the park electrical box (110 plugs) for the heated hoses and the heat lamps. Putting RV antifreeze in the gray and black tanks and expecting them not to freeze in the dump outlet, doesn't work. I had a seeping valve that would fill the space between the tank and a secondary valve at the outlet and that froze.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:02 PM   #9
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I live full time in mountains of Colorado. All suggestions are good, however, you will need to put some kind of skirting around your unit. It helps a lot with keeping your unit warm. I have a 24' 5th wheel and with all that I have done insulating inside, I can heat my whole trailer with one oil filled radiator. It was 28 this a.m. when I got up and inside I was 70. I've covered all my windows with Insul-Bright (got it from Wal-Mart) and all my curtains are floor to ceiling thermal drapes lined with felt. I even have the lined drapes over my door. Hope this helps.
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