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Old 01-03-2020, 02:53 AM   #1
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Put Axles on Jack Stands?

I have a 2004 Dutchmen 31 FKDS. I've positioned it on a pad at a campsite and never intend to move it. It is sitting on brand new tires. Is okay - or even sensible - to put the axles on 'hard' jack-stands, and store the wheels and brand new tires away out of the weather? If so, does anyone have any advice as to where best to properly support the axles? I do have scissor stabilizer jacks in use and well supported on the 4 corners. Thanks VERY much.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:21 PM   #2
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Take the tires off and put the jack stands under the axle at the springs.
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Old 01-05-2020, 04:41 PM   #3
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Sure can, just make 100% sure they are level on all 4 corners and solidly in place so there is no chance of one moving. Just keep in mind that everyone moving around inside shakes the suspension, so you need to make sure each and every jack is secure.



If you really want to make sure it wont move, install a set of JT Strong arms or similar. They prevent the front and back from sideways moving.
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Thanks VERY much . . . I'm going to consider doing this. I know it would be a 1/2 day project for me - plus the cost of the jackstands . . . and I guess I'd have to borrow a floor jack . . . but hate to see the tires uselessly exposed and going to waste.
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Thanks very much - tried to respond a couple days ago but something went awry . . .
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Old 01-08-2020, 09:42 PM   #6
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Scissor jacks are not made to support the full weight of the unit. If you are going to remove the wheels, put jack stands under the frame in from the corners and use probably 8 of them. You can support the axles if you want but don't put weight on them. You are leaving this as a permanent installation right?
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Why not leave the wheels on with tire covers and just jack up the trailer just enough to get the tires off the ground? That way if something slipped and god forbid a jack stand fell then the trailer would only drop an inch or so and nothing would break.

Just a thought.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:20 PM   #8
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My owners manual instructs to jack on the TT frame. The axle manufactures instructions forbid jacking on the axles. Jacking on the springs is unstable and usually not recommended for safety reasons.



The TT will be more stable if you support the TT with substantial jack stands on the frame.
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Why not leave the wheels on with tire covers and just jack up the trailer just enough to get the tires off the ground? That way if something slipped and god forbid a jack stand fell then the trailer would only drop an inch or so and nothing would break.

Just a thought.
Plus... unless this is being placed on a private piece of land all by itself... leaving the tires on won't make your rig (and by extension, the campground) look like a place for welfare refugees.

I know that might not necessarily be a politically correct notion to express... but if roll into a campground and see a bunch of rigs on jack stands or on cinder blocks w/o wheels, I'm making a u-turn and finding someplace else to stay.
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Old 01-11-2020, 04:07 PM   #10
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Jackstand Supports

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions - they are all appreciated. I'm going to make use of this Forum - I hope not too much - and I appreciate being admitted as a member. I'm COMPLETELY new to RV's. I finally got old enough to learn to make us of the knowledge and experience of others. I've carefully read all the 'input,' and I want to essentially summarize what's been provided so I can then ask if I'm understanding everything correctly - and obviously there has been some contradictory advice:

  • Do NOT lift, jack, or support the TT by way of an axle, or a spring.
  • Leave the tires/wheels on - with no load on them - and cover them to protect from Sun deterioration (Agreed that even though it's a very remote location, aesthetics matter and the complete remove of the tires/wheels would look awful).
  • If you take the weight off the tires/wheels, do so by way of 8 jackstands under the frame ONLY - 4 along each side of the frame. This provokes a couple questions: Right now, I'd guess over 80% of the total weight of the TT is on the tires (maybe 5% on each scissors stabilizer). If I use 4 jackstands along each side, should I make an effort to evenly distribute the weight across the 8 of them? Obviously the achievement of 'dead level' would be a goal. Would I then not use the scissors stabilizers? Also, it's a LONG way from the current support points (the axles) to the ends of the TT . . . are the frames for TT's 'pre-stressed' at the factory, or do they have some camber built into them at the factory in order to account for the 'bending' of the frame?
  • JT Strong Arms are very effective at reducing camper movement.

Thanks again to all VERY much for your help and input - it is appreciated. Dave Williams
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I would check with camp owners .. taking tires off and putting on permanent mounts might be considered a permanent structure ….is this allowed under town rules ??
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I would check with camp owners .. taking tires off and putting on permanent mounts might be considered a permanent structure .is this allowed under town rules ??
Central Massachusetts?? I was raised in Webster!

I agree, by the way, about taking the tires off, besides, someone mentioned something about if it should fall off the jack stands, good idea to have something there to keep it off the ground. Do you intend to anchor it to the ground somehow so the wind doesn't disturb it?
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