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Old 12-23-2017, 01:37 PM   #1
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Low point drains

We are scheduled to go to Boone next week. The high on some of the days will not be above freezing and the low... well what’s that saying about a witch? I have a water softener covered with insulation that stays outside and heated water hoses. My problem is what to do about the low point drains. I guess I could use that rubber hose stuff around them but I am wondering what good they would do when the temp reaches 12 or so. Lowe’s sells this heat tape. Wonder if that would work and be a better choice? At any rate. What do you seasoned travelers do when it gets that cold and you want to protect exposed parts of your RV?

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We are scheduled to go to Boone next week. The high on some of the days will not be above freezing and the low... well what’s that saying about a witch? I have a water softener covered with insulation that stays outside and heated water hoses. My problem is what to do about the low point drains. I guess I could use that rubber hose stuff around them but I am wondering what good they would do when the temp reaches 12 or so. Lowe’s sells this heat tape. Wonder if that would work and be a better choice? At any rate. What do you seasoned travelers do when it gets that cold and you want to protect exposed parts of your RV?

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You could use the heat tapes on them. But, the tape only covers the exposed part and not the part in the belly. Unless that is, you have one of those super heated bellies.
I had the gray water pipe freeze several years ago while the low points were exposed. Fortunately nothing broke, just all frozen for a time.
If it gets that cold you'll have more concerns about frozen pipes than just those two hanging down.
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You could use the heat tapes on them. But, the tape only covers the exposed part and not the part in the belly. Unless that is, you have one of those super heated bellies.
I had the gray water pipe freeze several years ago while the low points were exposed. Fortunately nothing broke, just all frozen for a time.
If it gets that cold you'll have more concerns about frozen pipes than just those two hanging down.
The underbelly of my RV is heated by the furnace which will stay on about 60 or so while we are gone. We have an electric fireplace and an immersion oil heater for the inside. Also a new down comforter from dewolfsen.
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The underbelly of my RV is heated by the furnace which will stay on about 60 or so while we are gone. We have an electric fireplace and an immersion oil heater for the inside. Also a new down comforter from dewolfsen.
I would take the temperature of the belly as soon as the thermostat shuts down the furnace. Or throw a digital thermometer in there and read exactly what the temperature is when the furnace shuts down. I bet the belly is no where the 60 degree set point. The ambient temperature inside the RV is what the thermostat senses for control.
It would be an interesting experiment at best.
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Exactly what I do. I have a remote thermostat sensor in my wetbay and it stays close to 15 degrees colder than the inside thermostat sensor. I watch it closely but have never had a problem at temps down to high teens so far. If it gets below 35 I have a small electric comfort zone from Amazon just for that purpose. I like to use electric heaters and our beautiful fireplace for most all heat, saves on propane too. As for the under belly, I have heat pads on all tanks and of course the furnace heat does get used grow 35ish or so to keep that warm some what. May have to get another remote thermostat just for u see there and pop it in taped to a choroplast seam I have access to. Good luck and stay warm!

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I would take the temperature of the belly as soon as the thermostat shuts down the furnace. Or throw a digital thermometer in there and read exactly what the temperature is when the furnace shuts down. I bet the belly is no where the 60 degree set point. The ambient temperature inside the RV is what the thermostat senses for control.
It would be an interesting experiment at best.
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Maybe just stick a bit of the foam pipe insulation over them? How far down to they hang? I would think that if the belly is heated to above freezing that if the pipes were covered they would keep warm enough. At the very least turn the water pressure off when it is coldest so if something does freeze you don't flood anything.

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I made a Lowe’s run this afternoon in waycross. Bought a couple of hose bib covers, some foam insulation to wrap around the pipes and some heavy rubber insulation for the pipes. I would love to put a heater under there but I have no “basement” or way to get into the underbelly. I have a small quartz heater I can put in the cubby next to the hot water heater but I don’t think that would be much good. I used to have heat lamps that I put close to the underbelly tanks. Didn’t work too well but it was the thought that counted. Those heat lamp bulbs are very fragile!
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Exactly what I do. I have a remote thermostat sensor in my wetbay and it stays close to 15 degrees colder than the inside thermostat sensor. I watch it closely but have never had a problem at temps down to high teens so far. If it gets below 35 I have a small electric comfort zone from Amazon just for that purpose. I like to use electric heaters and our beautiful fireplace for most all heat, saves on propane too. As for the under belly, I have heat pads on all tanks and of course the furnace heat does get used grow 35ish or so to keep that warm some what. May have to get another remote thermostat just for u see there and pop it in taped to a choroplast seam I have access to. Good luck and stay warm!

Hi, we are new to the RV world. Our Kodiak has the All Season Package and a Heated Underbelly. I would love to find out for sure that it works as advertised. A remote thermometer sounds like a great idea. Question is............where do you put it? How do you access the underbelly??

I have done some exploring behind panels and doors and the best place I can figure is under the kitchen sink? Follow some wiring or pipes into the belly of the beast?? Any suggestions?

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There are the wireless and wired digital versions available. Neither one is very expensive.

The down side of the wireless is the batteries in the transmitter have to be changed occasionally whereas the wired version has the battery in the display module.

You probably have water lines that penetrate the floor somewhere where you could possibly shove the sensor into the belly. The wired version has a fairly long lead on it so you should be able to view the display module at a comfortable location.

Mostly anywhere below the floor where the sensor will be in free air will give you a good reading of the belly.

https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Techno...perature+gauge

https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis...h+wired+sensor

Just a sample of what's available. I used the wired one from Radio Shack for years in different applications. I've had the wireless ones also, the application usually determined which I would use at the time.
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There are the wireless and wired digital versions available. Neither one is very expensive.

The down side of the wireless is the batteries in the transmitter have to be changed occasionally whereas the wired version has the battery in the display module.

You probably have water lines that penetrate the floor somewhere where you could possibly shove the sensor into the belly. The wired version has a fairly long lead on it so you should be able to view the display module at a comfortable location.

Mostly anywhere below the floor where the sensor will be in free air will give you a good reading of the belly.

https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Techno...perature+gauge

https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis...h+wired+sensor

Just a sample of what's available. I used the wired one from Radio Shack for years in different applications. I've had the wireless ones also, the application usually determined which I would use at the time.

Ok Thanks. I will just bury it as far as I can

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