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Old 06-15-2018, 01:16 PM   #1
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Nitro Filled Tires

Does anyone use nitro filled tires? My camper came with them but I canít seem to find anyone that can fill them.


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Old 06-15-2018, 01:46 PM   #2
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You don't really need nitrogen, I just fill my with my compressor. The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen anyway. Here is a link to an article that explains it. https://jalopnik.com/heres-the-deal-...res-1795659391
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:51 PM   #3
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Air, in of itself contains 21% of oxygen, the rest is nitrogen. That's why no one will have it or store it.


It's another marketing tool to make us think we are getting something special.
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All the Costco's in Canada have it at their Tire centres, perhaps its the same down in the U.S.
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No real advantage. While I'm not a chemist and people a lot more knowledgeable than I can correct me, but I think nitrogen tires run ever so slightly cooler and seep a little less than your air from a regular pump. Feel free to just add air to your nitrogen tires when they run low. Kind of a scam when they try to charge you for it.
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:10 PM   #6
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Ya know, my Voltage Elite came with nitrogen filled tires and a nice sticker by the entry door.

My son-in-law, a Store Manager for Discount Tire laughed and said good luck. Every time you adjust the pressure, have a flat, change tires...there goes the nitrogen and it really isn't gaining me anything.

So the nitrogen bottle I bought at the welding store has now become the bottle I carry in my Polaris General for filling tires when needed.

Oh well,

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So I thought a little more about it and aircraft tires are nitrogen filled. Being that I work at an airport I texted one of the mechanics and he can do the full but doesnít know how much the cost is until he sees my camper.


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Don't bother, you're wasting your time and money.
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Old 06-19-2018, 03:16 PM   #9
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I was told the advantage of nitrogen filled tires was that they didn't lose pressure as bad as compressed air, utter nonsense. Mine are probably 75% compressed air after a year from "topping" them off.
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Bottom Line

N2 electron cloud is larger than O2 electron cloud, hence harder (ever, ever so slightly) for N2 to leak out of tire. For practical purposes for us, doesnt make a bit of difference.
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N2 electron cloud is larger than O2 electron cloud, hence harder (ever, ever so slightly) for N2 to leak out of tire. For practical purposes for us, doesnt make a bit of difference.
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Is it worth added cost? For daily driver use, likely not. FWIW my bride's Ford Fusion has it and they provide it at no cost. Her tires seem to not need filling as often as the ones on my RV which has the custom 78% blend. On high performance tires like aircraft and high speed race cars I could see the need.

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Yep, when I start doing burn outs and sideways landings I'll put it back in. That's with the truck and RV!
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Great. Thank you for the help.


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Nitrogen definitely isn't worth the extra costs and trouble. They do leak a bit less as stated, but the only reason they use nitrogen in air craft is mainly due to the fact that nitoegen is an inert gas, it won't ignite like oxygen. Nitrogen also does not contain any water like regular air. All in all, you still have to check the tire pressure with nitrogen and eventually have to add. Air is cheap even if you have to drop a quarter in the pump!
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Nitrogen definitely isn't worth the extra costs and trouble. They do leak a bit less as stated, but the only reason they use nitrogen in air craft is mainly due to the fact that nitoegen is an inert gas, it won't ignite like oxygen. Nitrogen also does not contain any water like regular air. All in all, you still have to check the tire pressure with nitrogen and eventually have to add. Air is cheap even if you have to drop a quarter in the pump!

Oxygen, also known as air will not ignite. It does however support combustion. What is needed for combustion is heat, oxygen and fuel according to the ole fire triangle that has been upgraded to the fire tetrahedron which includes the forth element, a chemical chain reaction.


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Another reason for the nitrogen in aircraft tires is the extreme constant elevation changes and the N2 does not expand and contract as much as the 79% blend.
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Nitrogen will not change pressure during temp changes period
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Nitrogen will not change pressure during temp changes period


I am not sure that is correct. I believe as the earlier post says, nitrogen is far less susceptible to pressure change but it still changes.

I have a track car that I use nitrogen with and I still have to bleed pressure a few times as my tires come up to temperature because my pressures will increase dramatically when I drive the car hard.

Are you certain of this? If so then why do my pressures come up 10 degrees from 35 to 45 psi when I track my nitrogen filled tires?

I am not trying to be a smart ass but just asking.
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Pure Nitrogen is used so it doesn't leak out of those cheap, crummy Chinese tires. I use pure air in the Michelin truck tires on my trailer and there is never any air loss.
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