Check your Brakes! - Dutchmen Owners

Go Back   Dutchmen Owners > Dutchmen Brand RVs > Toy Hauler
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 12-17-2016, 03:39 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oxnard
Posts: 187
California
Check your Brakes!

I was in having some minor upgrades done and thought to have the brakes checked while it was in. Even though our unit is only about 18 month old, and done 7-8 trips, maybe 5k miles, i wanted to make sure they were balanced etc so that no one or two of the 6 brakes would be taking the brunt of the load. Turns out i was not being as proactive as i thought.. All 6 were worn and needed replacing, some even showing some overheating, and all the hub bearings needed regreasing as well. Like they say, "your mileage may vary", but posting this one here under Toy Haulers to hopefully get some feedback from others in the 20k lb class as far as how often they have found the $1300 brake job necessary, and to let everyone in the class know not to assume they'll get even 2 years before needing new brakes.
__________________

__________________
2015 Voltage 3800 w/ Epic, Int&Ext, Garage Pkgs; 4x100W Solar, Xantrex C35 Charge, SW2000 Inverter & Mon; 2005 Chevy Duramax Dually 3500 w/Banks; Kawi KFX700 & Polaris Scrambler 500 ATVs.
VCToyhauler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 09:40 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Roselle
Posts: 1,153
Illinois
Grease and adjust every year, about 9,000 miles.
Rusty
__________________

__________________
2015 Black F-350 Platinum Diesel Dually Crew Cab
2019 Riverstone Legacy 38MB (Full Paint/All Options)
2015 Voltage 3990 (Full Paint, All Options) Sold 6/18
2005 Harley Ultra Classic w/too many miles
lcv800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 11:56 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
thompwil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lancaster
Posts: 263
Pennsylvania
Took our 3305 in for state inspection a couple weeks ago. Has about 12K miles on it. All four wheels had no brakes left. Brake performance was still fine, just nearly no linings left. I realize this is a heavy rig with only two axles, but that is a bit ridiculous for brake life. I adjusted them according to the instructions LCI provides in their video, worked great, no drag, and no heat. Always use the exhaust brake too.


Thankfully the parts were only $50.00/wheel and my local dealer only charged me one hour labor since it was already jacked up for inspection. Iím starting to seriously consider installing disks if this is all you get from a set of brakes.
__________________

2015 Voltage 3305, Gone for Good !
2014 Ram 3500 dually, Aisin, Gone but not Forgotten.
2018 Winnebago Sunstar 32YE
thompwil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 08:18 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Tucson
Posts: 744
Arizona
I did my first brake and bearing re-pack when the trailer was two years old, last July, and had been across the USA a few times, probably 20,000 miles.

I learned that my trailer brake linings don't have much pad material on them even when new. I did my brakes a few months ago and found one brake that has never worked, due to an electrical issue, as it was still clean. The brake pads of the other brakes had just as much pad as the new pad, which wasn't very much. Our trucks have thick pads, our trailers do not. I did not replace any of my pads. I hope your mechanic didn't look at your thin looking pads and think they needed to be replaced when they didn't need to be. I hope you looked at the new and old pads to make a comparison. One big item is keep up on your brake adjustment as they are not self-adjusting, like every other drum brake in the free world. $109k MSRP for my 'luxury' trailer and Dutchmen won't install self-adjusting brakes? Ridiculous.

I also cleaned and re-packed the bearings. After two years of use, and no additional grease from me, they still had lots of grease. They were also adjusted properly from the factory. I doubt I will re-do my bearings every year as I'm not submerging them in water like my boat trailer.

You paid some major bucks for bakes and bearings with only 5,000 miles on them so I hope you were looking over your mechanic's shoulder to make sure he was doing the right thing and not doing work that wasn't needed.
__________________
2014 Voltage 3600
2013 Chevy 3500 CC DRW
2011 Harley Ultra Limited 2016 RZR 900
azdryheat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 09:10 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Griswold
Posts: 188
Iowa
Pulled my hubs to clean and repack bearings and found the seals had let grease into 3 of the 4 brakes. I had never pumped the hubs full of grease so I'm thinking the seals were bad from day one. The bearings all were ok so I repacked and installed new hopefully better quality seals purchased from local Car Quest parts store. They advised me to just clean the brakes up instead of replacing them because they had a lot of lining left probably because the coating of grease wasn't letting them work much. Will check them again after returning in the spring from the next trip.
__________________
2014 V3605
2015 Harley Road Glide Ultra CVO
2016 F-350 6.7 SRW SupurDuty Crew FX4 Lariat
dougs2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 09:27 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
ATCguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Somewhere on the road...
Posts: 1,301
Wyoming
If I ever get the use of my right arm back, redoing my brakes & bearings is a job I plan to tackle this winter. My question for those of you who have done it yourselves... how did you know what size brake pads you needed (part number & brand), and where did you get them? I'd like to actually ha d the new ones in hand before I begin the job.
__________________
Tom
2013 VOLTAGE 3200 (EPIC I & II)
2014 Ford F-450 PLATINUM
2017 BMW R1200GS Rallye
ATCguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 09:45 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
thompwil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lancaster
Posts: 263
Pennsylvania
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATCguy View Post
If I ever get the use of my right arm back, redoing my brakes & bearings is a job I plan to tackle this winter. My question for those of you who have done it yourselves... how did you know what size brake pads you needed (part number & brand), and where did you get them? I'd like to actually ha d the new ones in hand before I begin the job.
They replaced the entire back plate loaded with everything. New shoes, magnets, etc. Quick and easy. I believe mine are 12". I did see LCI sells self adjusting backplates too. My shoes were just on the verge of metal to metal, thankfully I didn't have to buy drums.
__________________

2015 Voltage 3305, Gone for Good !
2014 Ram 3500 dually, Aisin, Gone but not Forgotten.
2018 Winnebago Sunstar 32YE
thompwil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 09:54 PM   #8
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 3,138
North Carolina
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATCguy View Post
If I ever get the use of my right arm back, redoing my brakes & bearings is a job I plan to tackle this winter. My question for those of you who have done it yourselves... how did you know what size brake pads you needed (part number & brand), and where did you get them? I'd like to actually ha d the new ones in hand before I begin the job.
Check on the etrailer.com website for fully loaded back plates, cheapest way to go. IIRC all trailer brakes are pretty much the same you just have to make sure you get the correct diameter.

Aaron
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 10:00 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
ATCguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Somewhere on the road...
Posts: 1,301
Wyoming
Ok, sounds good. I just didn't figure the local auto parts store was gonna have a listing for a Dutchmen Voltage 3200 in parts books. 🤔
__________________
Tom
2013 VOLTAGE 3200 (EPIC I & II)
2014 Ford F-450 PLATINUM
2017 BMW R1200GS Rallye
ATCguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2016, 11:11 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Thom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Youngstown
Posts: 641
Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATCguy View Post
Ok, sounds good. I just didn't figure the local auto parts store was gonna have a listing for a Dutchmen Voltage 3200 in parts books. 🤔
Dutchmen doesn't even have a parts listing..... just ask them.
Thom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2016, 01:43 AM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Franklin
Posts: 48
Kentucky
I have a 2012 3750 FL Infinity pulled the wheels off, pads worn down to the cores went to the locale parts house got new brake assemblys and 2 new bearing race kits and packed bearings with a new type of grease its synthetic supposed to be the best on the market.I looked on the NET and found 5 and 7000 lbs axles use the same brake shoe assembly.They (brakes) cost me 58.00 a piece.
__________________
2006 Chevy Silverado 3500hd 2013 Dutchmen infinity 3750FL
gwcamp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2016, 04:39 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Tucson
Posts: 744
Arizona
The brake shoes are 12 x 2.
__________________

__________________
2014 Voltage 3600
2013 Chevy 3500 CC DRW
2011 Harley Ultra Limited 2016 RZR 900
azdryheat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Dutchmen RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×