Battery Question - Dutchmen Owners

Go Back   Dutchmen Owners > Dutchmen Brand RVs > Toy Hauler
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-09-2014, 02:24 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
soonernation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Sanger
Posts: 258
Texas
Battery Question

I usually turn the battery disconnect off when I return from a trip. This past weekend, I went to storage to load up and I could not get my level up to power. I figured maybe I left the switch on the weekend before and something drained the battery. I was able to get the front landing gears raised using the cord plugged into my truck.

So we spent the weekend hooked up to 50 amp power. No issues. I get to the storage to drop the trailer yesterday and once I disconnected from my truck, I had no battery power even power up the display on the level up.

Doesn't the converter charge the battery when you are connected to shore power? My trailer is a year and a half old. Is it possible the battery has gone bad? To be honest, I haven't even opened the lid on the battery box to see if this is a maintenance free battery.
__________________

__________________
2013 Voltage 3200
2014 Ford F350 DRW
www.facebook.com/VoltageToyHauler
soonernation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 02:33 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
HornedToad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Midland
Posts: 606
Texas
I've had trouble getting a battery to last more than a couple of winters stored outside. I started taking them off the boat in the winter, but we tailgate through November and usually have trips in Jan & Feb, so I leave them on the trailer.

I always carry a battery jumper box that has saved the day more than once.
__________________

__________________

Mike & Helen
2014 Voltage 3895 EPIC III
2013 Ford F350 CC DRW FX4
HornedToad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 03:16 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
DesertRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Desert Hot Springs
Posts: 1,760
California
If you have stone dead battery the converter will take way more than two days to charge up the battery. Converter does a good job of keeping a charged battery up but they only put in about 2.5-5 amps. First thing I would do is see if your battery is still good. If so it will need a good battery charger to bring it up to a full charge. Once there, they make some nice solar chargers that will help keep it charged until your next trip out.
__________________
Mike
2002 42' Monaco Signature Triple Crown tow 2014 F-150
2014 Voltage V3605 Sold 5/3/17
2012 F-350 6.7l CC 4X4, Sold 10/10/17
DesertRat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 03:48 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Nanaimo
Posts: 489
British Columbia
Batteries need to be kept topped up. That is not to say they need to be on a charger all the time. Charge it fully when you get home from a trip. Don't rely on your vehicle charging it on the trip home. That charge is minimal at best. At least once a month you should put a battery onto a charge for 24 hours. Once a battery goes dead if you don't charge it right away it'll be toast. You cannot leave a dead battery uncharged.
__________________
Gordon and Laura Howe
Vancouver Island, British Columbia
2010 Komfort Resort 240RK
Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 04:17 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mart
Posts: 159
Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by soonernation View Post
I usually turn the battery disconnect off when I return from a trip. This past weekend, I went to storage to load up and I could not get my level up to power. I figured maybe I left the switch on the weekend before and something drained the battery. I was able to get the front landing gears raised using the cord plugged into my truck.

So we spent the weekend hooked up to 50 amp power. No issues. I get to the storage to drop the trailer yesterday and once I disconnected from my truck, I had no battery power even power up the display on the level up.

Doesn't the converter charge the battery when you are connected to shore power? My trailer is a year and a half old. Is it possible the battery has gone bad? To be honest, I haven't even opened the lid on the battery box to see if this is a maintenance free battery.
It is possible the battery has gone bad. Pop the caps and check water level. Since we fulltime we are hooked to shore power all time. I have to top off water levels atleast every 2-3 months.
__________________
Mark & Dee
2013 Voltage 3895
2011 Dodge 3500 Dually
2 HDs & Can-Am Two up
nmroper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 05:34 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Tulsa
Posts: 183
Oklahoma
It is also possible that the converter has taken a powder. Check the water in the battery, and using a volt meter, check if it has power. If it checks out (has any voltage at all) then plug in the shore power and measure the voltage again. With the converter plugged in, it should change the voltage at the battery (although it might not be a full 14.25 volts). If the voltage goes up like it should then you know your converter is working.

If it happens that you are getting 12 volts on the battery (unplugged) and 14 volts plugged in, then you may have another problem. If not, then take the battery to an auto parts store and get it tested. They can tell you if it is good, marginal, or completely trashed.
__________________
2010 F-450
2013 Voltage 3905
macman83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 01:32 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
soonernation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Sanger
Posts: 258
Texas
Thanks for the info. I'll pull the battery this weekend and have it tested.
__________________
2013 Voltage 3200
2014 Ford F350 DRW
www.facebook.com/VoltageToyHauler
soonernation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 02:07 PM   #8
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 5
Colorado
I do most of my camping in the wilderness. Since I don't have a hook up I carry a solar charger. During the night the heater will take the battery down a notch, but with solar charger it will full by noon.
Gage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 04:19 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
hddecker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: kamloops
Posts: 2,152
British Columbia
Quote:
Originally Posted by soonernation View Post
I usually turn the battery disconnect off when I return from a trip. This past weekend, I went to storage to load up and I could not get my level up to power. I figured maybe I left the switch on the weekend before and something drained the battery. I was able to get the front landing gears raised using the cord plugged into my truck.

So we spent the weekend hooked up to 50 amp power. No issues. I get to the storage to drop the trailer yesterday and once I disconnected from my truck, I had no battery power even power up the display on the level up.

Doesn't the converter charge the battery when you are connected to shore power? My trailer is a year and a half old. Is it possible the battery has gone bad? To be honest, I haven't even opened the lid on the battery box to see if this is a maintenance free battery.
If the rig is a year and a half old, and the batteries have never been looked at, they may have gone dry. If that has happened, they may have also sulfated.

Keeping batteries topped up becomes even more critical in hotter climates, as they can lose fluid much faster. I have had situations where I was tooping up my batteries every week because of the temperature. Distilled water and a bulb filler (steal your wifes turkey baster if you have to) should be put of your maintenance kit.

Take the tops of the batteries, if you see a white flaky residue on the tops of the cells, you have a sulfated battery. There is a long drawn out process that may bring a battery from a sulfated condition, but it involves draining and filling the battery with acid several times. Search for sulfated battery and you should be able to find the process.

If you do try this you with a whole lot of acid to get rid of.
hddecker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2014, 11:09 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Canon City
Posts: 861
Colorado
So I've been wondering, does the convertor in my 2014 Voltage Epic 3800 act as a "float charger"...so leaving the trailer plugged in all Summer when we're home, doesn't overcharge the batteries?

I have a panel, meter and 50A service right next to my RV pad. So we usually keep the trailer plugged in all the time so the refrigerator is on AC.

Thanks,

Pirate
Pirate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2014, 11:41 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
HornedToad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Midland
Posts: 606
Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
So I've been wondering, does the convertor in my 2014 Voltage Epic 3800 act as a "float charger"...so leaving the trailer plugged in all Summer when we're home, doesn't overcharge the batteries?
Pirate,

There is a great FAQ about converters on the Progressive Dynamics website that addresses your question...

FAQs About Power Converters/Chargers
__________________

Mike & Helen
2014 Voltage 3895 EPIC III
2013 Ford F350 CC DRW FX4
HornedToad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2014, 12:13 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
jonthefireman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Austin Metro
Posts: 69
Texas
I'm betting the batteries might have gone dry. Had the same issue in our sailboat and ruined a couple of batteries. Check the water level often! I keep my battery disconnect on because I HATE to setup the radio every time it loses power. I also have my baby at home, which is an added benefit that most don't have.
__________________
Fireman Jon and Laura
2014 Voltage V 3605
2014 Ram 2500 HD 6.4L Hemi
2010 Harley Davidson Ultra Classic '07 Heritage Softail 2011 Polaris Sportsman 550 EPS
jonthefireman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2014, 01:00 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Nanaimo
Posts: 489
British Columbia
Yes Pirate, it does.
__________________
Gordon and Laura Howe
Vancouver Island, British Columbia
2010 Komfort Resort 240RK
Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2014, 04:57 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
hddecker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: kamloops
Posts: 2,152
British Columbia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
So I've been wondering, does the convertor in my 2014 Voltage Epic 3800 act as a "float charger"...so leaving the trailer plugged in all Summer when we're home, doesn't overcharge the batteries?

I have a panel, meter and 50A service right next to my RV pad. So we usually keep the trailer plugged in all the time so the refrigerator is on AC.

Thanks,

Pirate
Yes, but to confirm yours, check your owners manual or if you don't have one, goto the Dutchmen website, click Customer Service (good one ), then the Parts Manuals PDF tab, Electrical Power Supply. Find your model and click.

Just remember to check the batteries often and keep topped up with distilled water. As the temperature rises, your batteries will require more attention to keep them in good condition.

Walmart is a good source for distilled water, you can usually find it in the Baby department.
hddecker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2014, 05:40 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
DesertRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Desert Hot Springs
Posts: 1,760
California
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
So I've been wondering, does the convertor in my 2014 Voltage Epic 3800 act as a "float charger"...so leaving the trailer plugged in all Summer when we're home, doesn't overcharge the batteries?

I have a panel, meter and 50A service right next to my RV pad. So we usually keep the trailer plugged in all the time so the refrigerator is on AC.

Thanks,
Pirate
Well yes & no. That is some models are better than others. I also have my RV parked at my home & plugged into power. Montana I had boiled the batteries & I lost them quick. Teton I have has been fine. Voltage to new & haven't had long enough to know. I will keep a eye on them though.
__________________
Mike
2002 42' Monaco Signature Triple Crown tow 2014 F-150
2014 Voltage V3605 Sold 5/3/17
2012 F-350 6.7l CC 4X4, Sold 10/10/17
DesertRat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2014, 05:43 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
hddecker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: kamloops
Posts: 2,152
British Columbia
Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertRat View Post
Well yes & no. That is some models are better than others. I also have my RV parked at my home & plugged into power. Montana I had boiled the batteries & I lost them quick. Teton I have has been fine. Voltage to new & haven't had long enough to know. I will keep a eye on them though.
It all boils down to (pun intended) how well you look after your batteries. Batteries are one of the most over looked maintenance items in RVs.
__________________

hddecker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Popular Tags
#coleman 5th wheel 12 volt problem 243 255bhsl kodiak 1700bh apsen trail 1700bh tv mount 1991 2018 atlas 2018 denali 2901rl 3305 aerolite aerolite 282 dbhs. 2018 air conditioning alabama atwood awnins bike rack black water tank size btu caulk caulk; gasket charger chassis coleman diagrams disconnect dutchman dutchman endurance 3006 dutchmen electrical electrical inverter electric conversion floor floor bounce flooring fuel station furnace gray water tank grey tank hot water heater hydraulic insert inverter landing gear lights bad ground switch lost panel owners manual panels propane pvc valve repair replacement rise roof brackets satellite hookup slide manual open slide out solar structural fault switch thermarest aening tires voltage wall water heater water lines winterize winterizing wiring diagram
» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Dutchmen RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×