1575 watts of solar too much? - Dutchmen Owners

Go Back   Dutchmen Owners > Dutchmen Brand RVs > Toy Hauler
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-26-2018, 07:57 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
CSCLARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 336
Texas
1575 watts of solar too much?

Wasn't looking for panels but just happened on some, 5 to be exact for $.21 per watt. Now have to figure out how and where to put them.

Any reason why I (or you) wouldn't install all 5 panels? I have the real estate and weight on my 3990 is no issue.

I'm a DIY kinda guy so love to tinker.

Have a single LifeBlue lithium however, it is the new one 200ah and same discharge.

Initially the plan was to build out in phases and add another same battery by years end to give me 320 max usable amp hours.

Have a full Magnum setup on order with 3k hybrid inverter, BMK, AGS, ARC 50 and expect it to be here by the weekend for installation next week or 2. No hurry, need to install everything first and theen order cabling.

We live in this thing full-time and plan on retirement at end of year and rolling out across this great country. Boss wants to operate as if connected as close to possible of course minus air conditioning.

Next decision which controller, Magnum, MidNite Solar, Victron etc?

(FYI the sat pic is of the panels installed on the Embassy Suites, these were left overs heading to trash can.)

Yeah, I got lucky for sure.




Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
__________________

__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
2004 Sportster 1200c, Cruzbike Silvio 2.1, Cannondale Trail 5, Rover!
CSCLARK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2018, 09:08 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Roselle
Posts: 1,127
Illinois
Quite the deal. You and the Boss will be golden.
Rusty
__________________

__________________
2015 Black F-350 Platinum Diesel Dually Crew Cab
2019 Riverstone Legacy 38MB (Full Paint/All Options)
2015 Voltage 3990 (Full Paint, All Options) Sold 6/18
2005 Harley Ultra Classic w/too many miles
lcv800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2018, 10:49 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
donzinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Memphis
Posts: 1,433
Michigan
I have a Bogart Engineering Charge Controller and am happy with it.
__________________
2014-3950, Full Paint, 17.5" tires, 370W solar, 3100W Magnum inverter w/ AGS, 7500w diesel generator, Micro-Air Easy Start 364 (x3)
2019 Ram 3500 Limited w/ Max Tow pkg
donzinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2018, 04:05 AM   #4
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 6
Nevada
I have a similar setup to what you're planning. Magnum Hybrid 3K, AGS, BMK, and ARC50. I'm running 885 Watts of solar through a Morningstar TS-MPPT-60.

I primarily dry camp and in the summer there is no reason to run the generator except to run the air conditioner. The inverter is on 24 hours a day to power the DVR and we use plenty of AC for the microwave, convection oven, toaster and coffee pot. During the summer months I've finished the absorption phase by early afternoon worst-case scenario.

Winter is a bit different. I use the coach some weekends every month, but in cloudy conditions with the short days I have had to occasionally fire up the generator to bulk charge for an hour and then let the solar finish the absorb cycle. The Magnum 3K is capable of a 110 amp charge so the batteries bulk up quickly on the genset.

Winter for me provides the deepest overnight discharge. I have 440AH of AGMs installed and the lowest I've seen was down to 40% remaining. Running the heater fan, electric blanket, and more TV hours adds up. In the summer I rarely go below 75% remaining.

If I was in your situation and had the roof real estate I'd install all 1575 Watts of panels. I would have installed more on my rig if I had more space that would not have been shaded by an AC unit or vent cover. Since you have sufficient wattage I'd go with the Magnum PT-100 since it will use the same ARC-50 for a display and maintain the batteries at the same voltage whether you're using shore/generator or solar.

If you expect some panel shading (site selection or because of how they're installed) use parallel wiring back to the controller.

I took a look at the specs for the Lifeblue 200 and it looks like a single battery might be somewhat overloaded if you max out the load on the inverter. So no running the microwave while while simultaneously making toast and coffee. But after you get the second battery installed you'll be golden.

Let me know if you have other questions and I'll do my best to help out.
wiresLV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2018, 04:10 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
CSCLARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 336
Texas
Awesome wiresLV I will be reaching out to you for sure. I'm a newbie at this solar stuff so will take all the advice I can get. Others here have led me in this direction already.

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
2004 Sportster 1200c, Cruzbike Silvio 2.1, Cannondale Trail 5, Rover!
CSCLARK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2018, 08:50 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Blum
Posts: 14
Texas
5 panels 1000 watts here. My 50 amp Princess likes her electric. Just no a/c.
__________________
v/r,
2009 F350
2013 V3200
mauerrc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2018, 01:20 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
CSCLARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 336
Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by mauerrc View Post
5 panels 1000 watts here. My 50 amp Princess likes her electric. Just no a/c.
And what batteries for your system?
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
2004 Sportster 1200c, Cruzbike Silvio 2.1, Cannondale Trail 5, Rover!
CSCLARK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2018, 04:52 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Blum
Posts: 14
Texas
Could only afford, x4 Lifeline, GPL-4CT, 6 volt, AHC 220, at the time.
__________________
v/r,
2009 F350
2013 V3200
mauerrc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2018, 11:08 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
CSCLARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 336
Texas
Now planning the install and need some feedback please. I can run them all down the driver's side making parking with less shadowing a non issue also leaving room for an add a pair on the passenger side if we see we need to add solar. Or, I can put them all on the back of the coach split 2X2 as in the pic with cardboard layout.

Additional question I'm pondering maybe you folks have the answer. How far from the edge can I mount these? They are 39 inches wide by 77 1/8 inches long. I show about 1 1/2" which seems about right for the custom brackets of structural aluminum angle 1 1/2" X 2". Does this look right?

FYI
The combiner box is planned to go between the antenna and the double vent caps.

Ideas? I'm all ears.Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180821_171656817_HDR.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	45.8 KB
ID:	4943Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180821_172616172_HDR.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	46.4 KB
ID:	4944
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
2004 Sportster 1200c, Cruzbike Silvio 2.1, Cannondale Trail 5, Rover!
CSCLARK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2018, 03:11 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Blum
Posts: 14
Texas
Mine run down both sides of the roof and are offset so there is no shading. I can also tilt n both directions. They are about one inch'ish off the edges.
__________________

__________________
v/r,
2009 F350
2013 V3200
mauerrc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Dutchmen RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.