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Old 04-14-2018, 06:14 PM   #1
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I have 2018 f 150. Pulling 2016 Coleman 270RL I notice a lot of sway and only 1 time it pulled perfect with no sway
Oh using 1000lb blue ox swaypro please help any ideas
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:30 PM   #2
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Controlling sway involves lots of things working together. Just purchasing that Blue Ox doesn't guarantee no sway. And to some degree, sway is part of towing.

But tires, air pressure, proper trailer weight distribution,....... Well, you get the idea.

That new 18 Ecoboost has a lot of towing potential. But it needs proper setup as much or more than most trucks. (My brother and I both tow with Aluminum Ford Eco)

And finally, I know that Blue Ox calls that the sway pro, but I'm not sure about how much anti-sway it has in it. Looks like a really nice WDHitch though.

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Old 04-15-2018, 06:31 AM   #3
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I have 2018 f 150. Pulling 2016 Coleman 270RL I notice a lot of sway and only 1 time it pulled perfect with no sway
Oh using 1000lb blue ox swaypro please help any ideas
Thanks
As said many factors can come into play with sway but generally it's not enough tongue weight. You got to get to the scales. Weigh your trucks axles without the trailer then again with the trailer including the trailer axles and your weight distribution hitch set.

Subtract the numbers and you will be able to see how much tongue weight you have. You want Gross trailer weight to get between 10% and 15% of tongue weight. If that checks out then we can move onto other factors.

Looking at the Blue OX Pro except for a fancy chain ratcheting system it really looks like any other Trunnion style WDH.

You can check things in your own driveway if you don't have a scale nearby to see if your WDH is doing anything. Mark the top of your front and rear wheel wells and measure to the ground on your truck without the trailer. Then with the trailer but without the WDH then again with the WDH applied. With the WDH applied you want to try and get the wheel well measurement back to as close as possible when the truck was measured without the trailer. Example if the front was 30 inches empty 33 inches with the trailer but no WDH, with the WDH you want to try and get back to 30 inches. If your measurement does not change when you add the WDH then add more tension to the chains. It may be necessary to to tilt the head of the hitch.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:52 AM   #4
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I have a 16 F150 and a 14 274BH. I used to tow the 274 with a 14 F150 and it pulled GREAT with a simple Husky 800# RB and single sway control.



The first time I towed with the 16 using the same setup, once I hit 65 that trailer wanted to be every where the truck was not. Tore it down and set it up by the book, and no matter what, it just did not pull right. I did the scale thing and all, and just could not get the front axle back to empty weight. The Ford OM says return 25%, Forget that crap, it was 25% and swayed!


I replaced the husky with a BO with 1500# bars, nailed it on the first try. When I hit the scales I didn't bother with the bars hooked and unhooked, as the first weigh told me I had it nailed.


So here is how to do it. First get the trucks empty weight with a full tank of fuel and the driver and this will be the base line.



Now set the hitch up exactly as BO tells you too and forget what the Ford OM says. Now go load up as you would for travel and scale it. If you did it right then you will find your front axle weight to be where it is when empty. This should eliminate the sway. Just remember to keep 13% on the tongue before hooking up, or you will not get it right.



To find out the TW you can either take it to the scale and unhook it, dropping the jack on one pad and the axles on another, or get a couple 2x4's and screw them together, a couple foot long pipes, a cheap bathroom scale and a landscape paver, one of the 18" ones works best. Put a line across the short side of the 2x4, meaning the 2" side before screwing together, every foot. Put the first foot mark on a pipe in the middle of the paver block, the 5 foot mark on a pipe centered on the scale and the jack on the 2 foot mark. Multiply the weight by 4 and you have your tongue weight. You can use the 6 or 7 foot mark, just multiply by the number of marks between pipes.



The new F150 is very sensitive to setup, and I also heard that BO recommends disabling the trucks trailer sway control as it tends to counteract against the hitch. Haven't found this to be either true or false.



If you follow the above steps, this should pretty much make the towing more comfortable.
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Or, get a Hensley... just saying. Used the same Hensley on two trailers and three trucks. Sway is not a problem.
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Or, get a Hensley... just saying. Used the same Hensley on two trailers and three trucks. Sway is not a problem.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:25 AM   #8
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Nothing like,or equal to a Hensley hitch. We towed a 30’Artic Fox for 12 years going from Bangor Maine to the Key West. Never a sway issue. We pushed box trucks off the road.
A costly item no doubt but what are we worth!
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Old 10-13-2018, 03:22 PM   #9
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Helwig Rear Sway Bar

I have a 2018 F150 Eco Boost that has the MAX tow package. Truck rated at pulling 11,500 pounds. I am pulling a Coleman 263BH under 6000 # dry weight, trailer tongue weight unloaded is 775#. I have a dealer installed Fastway E2 round bar 2 point friction weight distributing hitch. I experience some bouncing; but that improved with just getting all tires inflated to MAX. However, still having more sway than one would feel comfortable having. I am considering replacing this hitch with a Equalizer 4 point friction hitch. However, I have heard from a few that have had much success with installing the Helwig rear sway bar on the actual truck. I was curious if anyone have heard of or actually had success with trailer sway by installing the truck sway bar???
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I have a 2018 F150 Eco Boost that has the MAX tow package. Truck rated at pulling 11,500 pounds. I am pulling a Coleman 263BH under 6000 # dry weight, trailer tongue weight unloaded is 775#. I have a dealer installed Fastway E2 round bar 2 point friction weight distributing hitch. I experience some bouncing; but that improved with just getting all tires inflated to MAX. However, still having more sway than one would feel comfortable having. I am considering replacing this hitch with a Equalizer 4 point friction hitch. However, I have heard from a few that have had much success with installing the Helwig rear sway bar on the actual truck. I was curious if anyone have heard of or actually had success with trailer sway by installing the truck sway bar???



I stopped reading at "Dealer Installed". There's your problem, not all dealers, if any, properly setup the hitches. It's the looks good enough install.



What you will want to do is get out the manual, and walk through all the steps and verify that it is properly configured for your trailer. Then once confirmed, if you still feel a bit of sway, turn off the trucks anti sway. I doubted at first that it would interfere, as Blue Ox recommends disabling it, and after installing a BO hitch, I found out that it is actually true, it did interfere as I got some weird sways until I turned it off.



If you have bouncing, then you may have too much weight in the rear of the trailer, so go to a scale and verify all weights and once you have them, get the tongue weight and make sure it falls between 10 and 15% with 13 being the ideal weight for the F150.



I also have an 18 F150 with Max Tow, and my Coleman 274BH tows very nicely with it and it scaled at 6400 pounds with a full FWT and 13.5% on the ball.
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