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Old 05-17-2020, 02:07 AM   #21
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I don't think we're getting much over 8mpg when we're not towing, but it may just be the price we pay for having the trailer we wanted. It's tough when the gas for a trip costs almost 4 times what the campsite does!
The weight of the trailer doesnít affect mileage like you think. Itís a 12 foot wind wall behind your truck.

I pulled a hybrid with my 2016 Silverado 1500 5.3 that weighted 5000 loaded and got about 9mpg.

We upgraded to a 300tq with that same truck and got about 8.5 loaded weighing around 9000.

Just traded for a 2020 Silverado 2500HD with the new 6.6 gas engine and a 36 gallon tank and get 9 mpg with the 300tq.

Didnít upgrade tow vehicle because of a power issue. It was a weight and stability issue. Pulled the toy hauler from Atlanta to Disney and back with no issue.
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Old 05-17-2020, 03:01 AM   #22
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I towed my Surveyor SP 240 (6,000 lbs. loaded) with both my 1500 Suburban 5.3 and my newer 1500 Silverado 5.3. With both vehicles I got 8 - 10 mpg. Many miles. Flat, up, down and always 8 - 10. Dropped to 6 - 7 pushing into a 35 mph headwind, but my foot was buried on the throttle with the old 4 speed automatic Suburban shifting between 3rd and 2nd at times. There is a theme here. I have had tanks as high as 12 with a tailwind, but that is the exception. I pull at 65 - 70 mph on the interstate. Then I traded up to an Aerolite at about 6,500 - 7,000 lbs. With the Silverado I got 8 - 10. Now have an Escalade 6.2 pulling the Aerolite. Getting 8 - 10. As far as 1/2 vs. 3/4 ton, I would stay with the bigger truck. Far more capable. The 1/2 ton should pull it. My Silverado was rated to tow 9,100 lbs. and the Escalade 8,100, but I am not certain I want to get much over 7,000. I feel that I would run out of margin. Good luck with your choices. My guess is you will see 8 - 10 mpg regardless. All about wind resistance and weight. The physics are compelling.
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:16 AM   #23
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Howdy All,
In "MY OPINION" if your concerned about getting much better then 8mpg when towing any decent trailer your playing the wrong game.


When I first started out I had a Dodge one ton dually diesel 3.73 gears hauling a 4,500 pound camper towing GW tandem axle trailer to haul the toys, I got on a good day maybe 7-8mph. I later sold the camper and moved up to a GW 16,000 pound toy hauler trailer, still got around 7mpg not up to 8 anymore.

Where I live western Washington I can't go anywhere unless I cross mountain ranges I got tired of not having the power to climb the grade, creeping down the other side to save the brakes. 7 years ago I said the heck with this, bought a GW 20,000 pound toy hauler and built a real truck to not only tow this weight but PANIC STOP it in a controlled manner if needed.

I now carry a Smart Car on the truck, drag a 20,000+ pound trailer loaded with toys up and down mountains at just about any speed I feel are safe for conditions and still get 7mpg at speeds of 62-72mph. If your going to tow its going to cost so you might as well get a trailer your comfortable in and a truck with enough power to drag it safely. Oh and for the record I have about half the money in the Peterbilt even with all the work I have done to it that you will pay for a new pickup that will never come close to it in safety over all economy and comfort. That's not a brag it's a simple statement of fact. The cost of a new pickup nowadays is CRAZY. Sorry for the links, I have tried for a half hour and can't get photos to display on this website.


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Old 05-17-2020, 02:19 PM   #24
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I have a 2016 Shasta 32 footer, that I have towed around the country including to Alaska. I have towed it with a 2011 Ford F-150 EcoBoost with Max Towing and Max payload, it had a 12,500 tow capacity. I have also towed it with my 2016 Ram 2500HD with the Cummins 6.7 Diesel. The Ford got 10 MPG and the Ram got 11.5 MPG towing the same trailer on the same roads. The millage not towing was the same, 21 MPG, the price for the trucks was almost the same at $45,000. So you can look at all the stats, in the end it is your decision. One I would not get is the ford 2.7 EcoBoost or a RAM or Chevy?GM V-6.
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Old 05-17-2020, 04:06 PM   #25
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I have a 2016 Shasta 32 footer, that I have towed around the country including to Alaska. I have towed it with a 2011 Ford F-150 EcoBoost with Max Towing and Max payload, it had a 12,500 tow capacity. I have also towed it with my 2016 Ram 2500HD with the Cummins 6.7 Diesel. The Ford got 10 MPG and the Ram got 11.5 MPG towing the same trailer on the same roads. The millage not towing was the same, 21 MPG, the price for the trucks was almost the same at $45,000. So you can look at all the stats, in the end it is your decision. One I would not get is the ford 2.7 EcoBoost or a RAM or Chevy?GM V-6.

Whats funny is my 2018 Platinum 3.5EB with Max Tow has the same trailer rating as the 2011 HDPP. Not that it could tow a 12,500 pound travel trailer, not enough payload @ 13%, but it just seems that newer trucks just get higher and higher trailer weights, yet very very few of them actually have the payload to do so.
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:59 PM   #26
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Whats funny is my 2018 Platinum 3.5EB with Max Tow has the same trailer rating as the 2011 HDPP. Not that it could tow a 12,500 pound travel trailer, not enough payload @ 13%, but it just seems that newer trucks just get higher and higher trailer weights, yet very very few of them actually have the payload to do so.
Do you also have the Max Payload package? In 2011they are two different packages. Don't confuse payload with GCVW, payload is weight on the axle not towing. Also, your Platinum is weighted down with all the extra goodies, my 2011 was an XLT Super Cab.
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Nice looking rig! Looks extremely capable.
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:14 PM   #28
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Do you also have the Max Payload package? In 2011they are two different packages. Don't confuse payload with GCVW, payload is weight on the axle not towing. Also, your Platinum is weighted down with all the extra goodies, my 2011 was an XLT Super Cab.

No, just max tow, but the combination rates in at 12,500. It has 1557 pounds payload, so at 10% TW, it can tow a 12,500# trailer. They gained about 400 pounds payload since the 09-14 gen
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:54 PM   #29
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No, just max tow, but the combination rates in at 12,500. It has 1557 pounds payload, so at 10% TW, it can tow a 12,500# trailer. They gained about 400 pounds payload since the 09-14 gen
Thats kind of low for payload, mine in 2011 was 3200, and I think it was the same in 2018 with the max payload package.
I see all the folks talking about 1 ton and 2 1/2 ton trucks, that's over kill for a 6000 or 7000 trailer.
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Old 05-18-2020, 01:40 PM   #30
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Thats kind of low for payload, mine in 2011 was 3200, and I think it was the same in 2018 with the max payload package.
I see all the folks talking about 1 ton and 2 1/2 ton trucks, that's over kill for a 6000 or 7000 trailer.

Not for a 1/2 ton. Base 4x2 XL max was 3060, 4x4 2860. That was only for Regular cab with 8' box. Supercab was lower by 300 pounds, and XLT even lower than that. 2018-2020 3270 is max and only for an XL regular cab 8' bed. On average the HDPP XLT is 2600 or less.
I had a 2014 Lariat that had 1470 pounds payload, and a 2012 Lariat 1320 payload, so my fully optioned Platinum with 1557 is a beast compared to them and tows 6500 pounds just fine, but when towing the same trailer with a Superduty, there is no comparison, I can hardly tell the trailer is back there in the SD, but you know it is there with the 1/2 ton. It's like using a sailboat anchor on a battleship, the ship will move that anchor, but with the SD the anchor keeps the ship in it's place.
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Old 05-19-2020, 03:47 AM   #31
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Good Mileage

I am lucky, I get about 11 to 12 if I keep it at 60mph, I am pulling a 2015 3895 Toy Hauler, If I add my side by side it drops to 10, but I am over 22,000 lbs, I have a 2019 Chevy 3500HD CC DRW now with about 10,000 miles on it. It gets better mileage then my 2013 Chevy 3500HD CC DRW, 8 to 10mph

One trip going west on HWY 10 in California, bad wind, dropped mileage to 7mph
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