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Old 05-06-2014, 02:58 AM   #1
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What to do!!!???

Okay so here is the deal...

I have been shopping for a 5'ver for some time and have narrowed it down to 2 units. The voltage 3818 or the cyclone 4018. Both seem to be quality built 5'vers at least as quality as your going to get for a production rv.

I visited the local dealerships to look at finish quality of each unit.

Voltage 3818

The layout is more ideal then the cyclone but overall very similar.
The weight capacity is a whole 2k more in gvwr...net of about 1k in after water capacity compared to the cyclone
Holds 50 gallons more water
TV's are samsung not sansui

But the Slides scare the !?$& out of me! Post after post about the slides ans leaks and warpage..my god!

So for comparisons I had the cyclone dealership price the following add to compare to the voltage.

1. Add dexter 7k axels
2. 6pt leveling
3. Add 3rd AC
4. Add full body paint

Cyclone 4018

There is nothing negative I can say about what I Saw in the cyclone except little storage for size.

But the price.... 13k more for a similarly equipped voltage... Are you serious!?

And on top of that they will do an axel swap but not sticker the unit at 20k

I have considered having options removed on the cyclone to keep price in line with voltage and was previously completely sold on the voltage until I researched the slide.. Not just on the voltage.

I have a two younger kids and a less than strong wife... Even a simple attempt to force re align the tracks would be a nightmare....

I am at a complete loss at what route to take now...

I have a 2014 Ram 3500 DRW longhorn with 4:10 and aisin for the TV weight and payload for the most part is not a concern
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:45 PM   #2
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I had a very similar debate about the cyclone and voltage. Both had options I wanted , but choose the package I thought I would enjoy the most . The auto level system has been flawless and slides worked perfect on my 3950. 5 weeks total days camping last year in high humidity of July Florida weather , heavy rains in the Virginia mountains and cold late November hunting trips in Illinois . I should have spent more time looking for a reliable trusted dealership for my purchase . Good luck and happy camping.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:40 PM   #3
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...and slides worked perfect on my 3950. 5 weeks total days camping last year in high humidity of July Florida weather , heavy rains in the Virginia mountains and cold late November hunting trips in Illinois.
Bad... The affirmation is appreciated.

Ace... I recently upgraded from a two axle Heartland TH to a triple axle Voltage. I went through the same process comparing the Cyclone 3800 to the Voltage 3895. I was biased toward the Cyclone having already owned a Heartland trailer, they make a great product.

It came down to just what you've concluded... I felt the options and features on the Voltage gave me more bang for the buck.

I researched the slide issue and figured if you take care you can minimized any possible problems.

1. Level before extending the slides
2. Operate slides on generator/120V only
3. Lubricate
4. Inspect rollers & check for warping

In West Texas the average annual rainfall is less than 10 inches, so the warping is not really too much of a concern.
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:16 PM   #4
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If you decide on the Voltage give these folks a call. Had the best price & real nice to deal with. It's were I got mine.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:16 PM   #5
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Wow, I won't say too much as for sounding like a broken record. We did the entire debate between the cyclone 3800 and V3895. Many of the same considerations as above an decided the Voltage just had the little things I wanted.

N/S bed
One bath doorway offered larger vanity
Automatic cycling of Air Condion
Higher GVWR
Trailair
That's to name a few

Good luck with your decision, both have good and bad points.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:41 PM   #6
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One big factor that I found valuable was the actual R factor ratings on the trailers. The Momentum and Voltage trailers both have the best ratings and I liked the options better on the voltage (3895)
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:22 AM   #7
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We just recently brought home our 2014 Voltage 3895. We didn't even bother comparing it to the Heartland Cyclone this time around. When we purchased our 40ft. Weekend Warrior, 7 years ago, we compared both toyhaulers and the Weekend Warrior was undoubtly a better quality and better build all the way around. We are in LOVE with our new trailer. We haven't had any problems with the slide. We follow the same advice as HORNEDTOAD has mentioned above and everything has worked just fine. I cannot say enough good things about this trailer. We also purchased our trailer from Mike at The Trailer Hitch. Good people. Good luck in making your decision.
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We also compared the brands, went with a voltage (even thought it's a smaller 5th wheel and not as big as yours).
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:50 AM   #9
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Help!! My 2014 Voltage 3905 Kitchen Slide will not move.......on one side. This is the third time I have ever operated the slide. I went through the Control Module error process and received a number 8 code that states there is a problem between the module and the motor....

Does anyone have any tips, or experience? I had an RV repair man today that couldn't help at all.

I spoke to my dealer today to get this far. He has to call Dutchman tomorrow...
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:02 AM   #10
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Welcome to the world of the Schwintek slide. Try to align it with the motor that still works. Then unplug the connectors at the slide modules. This releases the "brakes" in the motors and allows you to push the slides closed. You'll need several good sized men and a couple of boys. IF your able to get it closed remember to plug the controllers back in or the slide will roll out while your driving. Again, plug the controllers back in before driving. Good luck.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:26 PM   #11
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Help!! My 2014 Voltage 3905 Kitchen Slide will not move.......on one side. This is the third time I have ever operated the slide. I went through the Control Module error process and received a number 8 code that states there is a problem between the module and the motor....

Does anyone have any tips, or experience? I had an RV repair man today that couldn't help at all.

I spoke to my dealer today to get this far. He has to call Dutchman tomorrow...
Same thing happened to our kitchen slide during only the second cycle post PDI. I saw that one side was hanging up on the way in and stopped it immediately. I then put it in manual mode and took it back out. Then back in normal mode i cycled it a few times making sure to hold button until the motors went silent. Thankfully we've not had any further problems. Recommend you go to Lippert site (http://www.lippertcomponents.com/sch...-wall-slideout) and review all videos and instructions on dealing with issues on these slides.
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