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Old 05-07-2015, 10:40 PM   #1
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I'm in the mood to Bitch!

I realize there is a thread going on right now about Dutchmen Quality Control but my little complaint would just get buried in the mass of comments.

Family and I are getting ready for an outing. I was in the garage of my 3905 playing my guitar after setting up a couple different axe mounting locations.

Right there in the middle of the garage floor if kept getting my foot caught on something. I know, it was not the first time. But it was the last time.

They mount those tie down to the floor using a flat head screw rammed into a hole that is not countersunk. How #ucking stupid.

Most all of these so called builders should be castrated so they do produce any more assembly line spawn.

Now I have said it. It's time to go out and correct MORE of the manufactures insults.
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:12 AM   #2
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Dang Guitar! It was the 4/4 time that caused it!!
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:45 AM   #3
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I think your right.
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I counter sunk all the screw holes for the tie downs. I guess I can drink more now and fall down less.

Tme to move on to fix another of manufactures screw ups.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:15 AM   #5
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I'm glad I only have four strings to worry about.
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Mental note to self: Do not get guitar to play in the garage of my toy hauler.

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I played piano in the marching band but I would't try that in the garage!
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:17 PM   #8
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I played piano in the marching band but I would't try that in the garage!
Piano in the marching band? Is that like playing the organ in public?

I'll shut up now.

Family forum and all that.
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I looked at my tie downs after reading your post the other night. Mine are sunk and flush so I guess your prior problem can be contributed to the blind installers at our favorite jacked up assembly plant.

Just think, we'd have a hell of an RV if they were made by a Japanese manufacturer, maybe one they'll get in the business.

I tried the pump organ but couldn't keep up with the band what with all the pumping I had to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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I tried the pump organ but couldn't keep up with the band what with all the pumping I had to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Dude. There is Good. There is Bad. But you're the Worst. Gotta love it.

Again. I'll shut up!
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If you have the time and ambition you can use a square file on the holes and then use 1/4" carriage bolts with serrated flange nuts underneath. That will solve the tripping hazard and will not adversely affect the acoustic properties of your garage.
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If you have the time and ambition you can use a square file on the holes and then use 1/4" carriage bolts with serrated flange nuts underneath. That will solve the tripping hazard and will not adversely affect the acoustic properties of your garage.
Or, remove the flat head screw and countersink the holes.

It took about 30 minutes to complete all the tie downs.

Actually, the acoustic properties of the garage are pretty darn good.
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I agree, people that build these rv's could care less. And what really gets me is all the people that buy brand new toy haulers and then repair them theirselves! So as long as nobody complains to Dutchmen they will keep putting out junk. I guess a lot of people just have money to throw away! But we are not rich and paid a lot of money for a toy hauler to use, not work on!
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Believe me when I say that those of us that do our repairs have gone the complaint route with the manufacturer, the dealer and anyone that will listen.
Failing to get positive results from the manufacturer and/or the dealer we have taken the repair jobs into our own hands.
Two months to get an appointment and then another two months for repairs is unreasonable so its just quicker and easier to do it ourselves.
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Believe me when I say that those of us that do our repairs have gone the complaint route with the manufacturer, the dealer and anyone that will listen.
Failing to get positive results from the manufacturer and/or the dealer we have taken the repair jobs into our own hands.
Two months to get an appointment and then another two months for repairs is unreasonable so its just quicker and easier to do it ourselves.
You are exactly right. Several days to make an appointment, a week until they look at it and right it up for warranty. Two weeks until warranty approves, then a week at least to do the work. It's brand new. Short of a major malfunction, I do it ourselves. Besides, all of you guys helping via the internet is a big plus. Thanks again for the tips.
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I agree, people that build these rv's could care less. And what really gets me is all the people that buy brand new toy haulers and then repair them theirselves! So as long as nobody complains to Dutchmen they will keep putting out junk. I guess a lot of people just have money to throw away! But we are not rich and paid a lot of money for a toy hauler to use, not work on!
They don't care... they are selling RV's and making money, that is ALL that matters to them. Once it leaves the factory for the selling dealer they have their money.

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