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Old 12-22-2014, 04:23 AM   #1
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Black Op Voltage

Like the new Black Label Edition line of Voltage toy haulers.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:45 PM   #2
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Looks cool but I wouldn't buy one. Is that a flat paint? Seems like it would be more difficult to clean bugs, sap, etc. off the trailer.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:53 PM   #3
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Bugs, sap, thats just extra layers of protection!
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:27 PM   #4
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Looks like my trailer does when I haven't washed it for a while.
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:35 PM   #5
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Holy smokes, found a 3895 Black Label Edition...the sticker price is $159k. That is freaking nuts!

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Old 12-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #6
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Holy smokes, found a 3895 Black Label Edition...the sticker price is $159k. That is freaking nuts!

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Where did you see that?
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Old 12-23-2014, 05:02 PM   #7
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That's probably MSRP, which U.S. always high, and no one ever pays. The MSRP on my 3200 with the Epic II package was over $98k, and I only paid mid 60s.

The MSRP is the retail price of every single component, appliance, accessory, custom option, etc. in the rig... plus shop labor rates to build it piece by piece.

If you were to sticker & price a car in the same way, a typical Toyota Camry would sticker at somewhere over $100k
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That's probably MSRP, which U.S. always high, and no one ever pays. The MSRP on my 3200 with the Epic II package was over $98k, and I only paid mid 60s.

The MSRP is the retail price of every single component, appliance, accessory, custom option, etc. in the rig... plus shop labor rates to build it piece by piece.

If you were to sticker & price a car in the same way, a typical Toyota Camry would sticker at somewhere over $100k
You are right, sticker, but you will be paying $100k in the end, even with getting them down. Sticker on ours was $138k, got for $72k.

Here it is, the first one

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Old 12-23-2014, 05:46 PM   #9
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Hmmmmmm, black lipstick on a pig, very interesting.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:43 PM   #10
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42 ft... yea right..... just like my 39 ft 10 inch ...I mean 41 ft 9 inch model 3600 Why cant the advertise the true overall length?
Flat paint...yuk.
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:31 AM   #11
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Goodness Cale, All their campers are priced high. I was always told take MSRP and subtract 30-35% to get selling price. Large volume dealers have a gold mine when it comes to someone trading in a RV. As someone who has inside connections it really disgusts me at the money they make and how they rip off the consumer, but like they said they keep coming back........It is purely consumer driven!
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Old 12-24-2014, 03:42 PM   #12
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I like the blackout roller shades... that would be a neat add on!!!
DW says the residential ones are pricey?
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Goodness Cale, All their campers are priced high. I was always told take MSRP and subtract 30-35% to get selling price. Large volume dealers have a gold mine when it comes to someone trading in a RV. As someone who has inside connections it really disgusts me at the money they make and how they rip off the consumer, but like they said they keep coming back........It is purely consumer driven!
Yeah, we got lucky, nearly 50% off sticker. We found what we wanted and gave them an offer a few thousand over Holman RV (to cover shipping). It took a few months, but they caved...it was like playing chicken!

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I like the blackout roller shades... that would be a neat add on!!!
DW says the residential ones are pricey?
That one has cable slides, no Schwintek on that one

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Old 12-24-2014, 04:21 PM   #15
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That one has cable slides, no Schwintek on that one
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Sorry I'll take hyd. slides like my Teton has any day over cables.
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Sorry I'll take hyd. slides like my Teton has any day over cables.
Are they offering hydraulic slides?
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I don't think so. Never seen a slide out option. I was just giving my opinion of the best slide set-up.
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I must agree. Too bad they don't offer 'em.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:29 PM   #19
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Different, but NOT a fan of the flat paint - sorry
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I guess i'm the only one who thinks that's a sweet looking rig. My old bike would have looked right at home parked next to it.

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