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Old 12-10-2013, 03:03 AM   #1
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New 2014 Voltage 3950 owner here...

Hello all,

Was perusing the forums and came across this site. Last weekend we picked up our new 3950.

We weren't in the market for a new toy hauler as we had just purchased a 2013 Vengeance 376V about 5-6 months ago.

Turns out, we've had nothing but problems to the point that the manufacturer was to come from Indiana to NC to pick it up and go through it next month.

It wasn't until 2 weekends ago that my wife and I met some friends to ride our Jagged X rzr in Tenn where the weather was 19 degrees and the furnace wouldn't work (again) (not to mention 2 out of the 3 slides got jammed and the happy jack beds wouldn't go up without someone pushing them up)

So now we have a 3950 and when we were looking at toy haulers 6 months ago, we had narrowed it down to the Cyclone 4100 HD or the Voltage. At the time I didn't want to spend the extra 20K grand… guess I paid for it now.

So far, it looks great. We found one piece of trim that was broken from the factory but everything else seems to work. I'd like to take it out for a shakedown run soon to double-check everything.

Thought I'd stop in and say hello and hope to learn some more about it.

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Mark
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:59 PM   #2
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We've got 18 months and about 20 trips on our 3950 and love it. Most of our trips have been in East TN and southern KY OHV parks.

I suggest replacing the weak jack pull pins with grade 8 hardware as the stock Chinese junk will bend and possibly shear (I've had two shear and all others bend) Other than that ours has been great.

Also, always level before opening the slides, but you probably knew that already.

Enjoy,
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We've got 18 months and about 20 trips on our 3950 and love it. Most of our trips have been in East TN and southern KY OHV parks.

I suggest replacing the weak jack pull pins with grade 8 hardware as the stock Chinese junk will bend and possibly shear (I've had two shear and all others bend) Other than that ours has been great.

Also, always level before opening the slides, but you probably knew that already.

Enjoy,

Don't mean to sound stupid but which pull pins are we talking about? The ones on the front landing gear? If so, I'll take a look at it tomorrow.

Yeah, I've read about everyone saying about leveling before opening the slides. I never worried about that on my last trailer but the funny part is, the slides on a Voltage open so sloooooowly.

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Old 12-11-2013, 01:27 AM   #4
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Also, always level before opening the slides, but you probably knew that already.

Enjoy,
My wife keeps telling me that. I didn't thinks she knew what she was talking about. My Bad.
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My wife keeps telling me that. I didn't thinks she knew what she was talking about. My Bad.
Conversely, it is now being suggested to extend the small front slides with the rig still on the fifth wheel. Supposedly that takes some of the sway out of the frame when the landing gear is down.
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Don't mean to sound stupid but which pull pins are we talking about? The ones on the front landing gear? If so, I'll take a look at it tomorrow.

Yeah, I've read about everyone saying about leveling before opening the slides. I never worried about that on my last trailer but the funny part is, the slides on a Voltage open so sloooooowly.

Thanks again,

Mark
Yes, the landing gear and stabilizer pull pins. They are junk. I had one shear on the front dropping the entire weight of the unit onto one leg. Dutchmen sent the dealer the same item for replacement. Every pull-pin I removed was bent and one rear was almost sheared again. In my opinion this is the first thing any new voltage owner should fix as you are supporting your entire investment with a 99 cent piece of low grade metal that has proven failures. I'll post pictures later.
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Conversely, it is now being suggested to extend the small front slides with the rig still on the fifth wheel. Supposedly that takes some of the sway out of the frame when the landing gear is down.
Where did you hear this? I assume your talking about the bedroom slide, but I'm not sure how that could possibly effect the flex of the frame and if your level you shouldn't have any frame flex.

If I'm not perfectly level the slide motors will strain much more moving both in and out. I always level first and I've never had an issue with my lippert electric slides (knock on wood).
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Where did you hear this? I assume your talking about the bedroom slide, but I'm not sure how that could possibly effect the flex of the frame and if your level you shouldn't have any frame flex.

If I'm not perfectly level the slide motors will strain much more moving both in and out. I always level first and I've never had an issue with my lippert electric slides (knock on wood).
I was questioned by a warranty tech if I had tried to retract my slide while on the fifth wheel. It was a suggestion but wasn't applicable to my situation as it was the livingroom slide that was stuck extended.

It may be due to the part of the bedroom that hangs over the landing gear causing a flex of the frame or substructure, dunno.

I may have read it on another forum as well. I don't subscribe to the theory but one never knows what will work and what won't work on these things.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:04 AM   #9
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Yes, the landing gear and stabilizer pull pins. They are junk. I had one shear on the front dropping the entire weight of the unit onto one leg. Dutchmen sent the dealer the same item for replacement. Every pull-pin I removed was bent and one rear was almost sheared again. In my opinion this is the first thing any new voltage owner should fix as you are supporting your entire investment with a 99 cent piece of low grade metal that has proven failures. I'll post pictures later.

Today I looked at my landing gear up front and didn't see any pins. Do you think they changed it for 2014?

I meant to take a pic but got busy…

I'll take pics tomorrow.


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Old 12-14-2013, 08:33 PM   #10
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We've got 18 months and about 20 trips on our 3950 and love it. Most of our trips have been in East TN and southern KY OHV parks.

I suggest replacing the weak jack pull pins with grade 8 hardware as the stock Chinese junk will bend and possibly shear (I've had two shear and all others bend) Other than that ours has been great.

Also, always level before opening the slides, but you probably knew that already.

Enjoy,


Here's pics of the jack stands, I didn't see any pull pins. Am I missing something?








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These are the ones he may be speaking of.
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These are the ones he may be speaking of.
May be they updated the stands??

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Beats me, I have six of them on the 3800. Might be a difference between electric or hydraulic landing gears.
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There are no pins in the hydraulic Auto-Level system.
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Beats me, I have six of them on the 3800. Might be a difference between electric or hydraulic landing gears.



Yes it is. The hydraulic landing gear does not have the pin set-up
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There you go, another mystery solved!!!
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There you go, another mystery solved!!!

Agreed… now I can quite looking.


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I know, made you think something was missing huh?
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I know, made you think something was missing huh?
Yup, I went out there 3 different times to make sure we're on the same page…LOL.

My last trailer had pins so I thought they all did….


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You have the hydraulic system. No pins required. the others are talking about the Electro-Mechanical system.
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