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Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 03-19-2019, 04:22 AM
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Posted By Hart_family
Yes - the MSRP is around $1,000 like most other...

Yes - the MSRP is around $1,000 like most other LFP batteries. And yes - the local RV show was selling them for $759, but I have seen other prices in between the two. Seems as if it is up to the...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-24-2019, 01:09 AM
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Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
I couldn't find the Battleborn heaters you cited....

I couldn't find the Battleborn heaters you cited. Send a link if you come across them. I found a lot of battery heater wraps for car batteries, so I don't know why those wouldn't work in a pinch...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-23-2019, 11:55 PM
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Posted By Hart_family
Agreed, but even on a summer night up in the...

Agreed, but even on a summer night up in the Uintas, you could get a cold snap. One of the worst snow blizzards I have been in was near Mirror Lake in August.

That's interesting about 40 deg...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-23-2019, 11:34 PM
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Posted By Hart_family
Yeah. These batteries would last a long time. I...

Yeah. These batteries would last a long time. I haven't picked mine up yet...will probably do that this week.

The only thing that has me only slightly concerned is the rule of no charging at 32...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-19-2019, 07:41 PM
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Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Paul - yes - that is what they said today. Where...

Paul - yes - that is what they said today. Where did you see the AGM/FLA only text? I looked up all the specs for my converter, the brochure, and website, and did not notice that anywhere.
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-19-2019, 03:46 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
I was finally able to talk to a technical person...

I was finally able to talk to a technical person at WFCO. I simply wanted THEIR perspective on using a lithium battery with my particular WFCO converter (especially in light of the fact that WFCO...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 10:50 PM
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Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Thanks Lee. I am really glad to hear from an...

Thanks Lee. I am really glad to hear from an actual tried/tested user. Battleborn sounds great too. Lion Energy are actually local to me here in Utah, but I will be curious to know where they are...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 10:32 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
I agree. Talk is talk, but I am interested to see...

I agree. Talk is talk, but I am interested to see how these REALLY work, especially with my WFCO converter. I am not worried about the battery's BMS...I think any weak link will be my...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 07:25 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Agreed. I'm not sure who brought up the RV tag...

Agreed. I'm not sure who brought up the RV tag thing. But yes - you are correct. There is a lot of marketing hype to wade through. That's cool the solar and battery experience you've had!
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 07:13 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Sure. Yes. All of it. The LION 12-volt batteries...

Sure. Yes. All of it. The LION 12-volt batteries can be used in a host of applications, including RV but also for dump trailers etc. Of course, you are talking all things being equal. 12 Volt, 6...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 03:26 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Yes, you are correct. And that is what I said in...

Yes, you are correct. And that is what I said in my post. But they ARE a type and form of lithium ION as well. The iron variant is just one specific type of lithium ion cell. Most manufacturers...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 02:09 PM
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Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Nope, not quite. These are indeed lithium ION...

Nope, not quite. These are indeed lithium ION batteries. However, there are multiple chemistries, and the ones typically used for RVing use lithium IRON phosphate (also called LiFePO4, lithium IRON,...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 08:29 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Lithium goes well with solar and is quite popular...

Lithium goes well with solar and is quite popular for that. Charging times and all.

I can’t think of any reason to need a second lithium battery for our current rig since one lithium provides...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 07:53 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
1l243 - Thanks for the reply. Sorry if I came on...

1l243 - Thanks for the reply. Sorry if I came on a bit strong. I do not sell these, by the way. haha. I am just a little excited about the prospect of a really nice battery. :)

You seem to have a...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 06:10 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
First of all, you are only talking about up-front...

First of all, you are only talking about up-front cost. The actual life cost (value) of lithium is about 3x LESS that FLA batteries. Also, my Interstate 12 V batteries were $125 each, and I have to...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 04:24 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Yes. These batteries only discharge about 2% or...

Yes. These batteries only discharge about 2% or so per month. They can go down to a true 100% DOD (0% life left) without any harm to the battery. They can sit for a year with nothing without harming...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 04:22 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
I agree a well-maintained FLA battery could last...

I agree a well-maintained FLA battery could last up to 5 years. And yes - I know my new 65 watt WFCO converter keeps getting a bad rap. I will deal with that separately.

I will probably not go...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-17-2019, 04:18 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
Thom - THANK YOU for the video link you...

Thom -

THANK YOU for the video link you sent. I watched the whole thing. Those guys are EXCELLENT and really know their stuff. It jives with ALL that I have read and researched. Another...
Forum: Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics 02-16-2019, 03:08 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 6,618
Posted By Hart_family
after all that, I think I will go lithium ion

So, went to the RV show today. Ran into a company that released their new 12 V lithium ion RV batteries about 4 months ago (https://lionenergy.com/products/lion-safari-ut). Expensive ($750 to $999)...
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