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Helidriver 04-19-2016 12:14 AM

Looking to go DRW - which truck ?
 
So I currently have a 2015 - 2500 crew cab ram with the Cummins - it does seem to pull the 2016 v3305 okay but is over GVW - have been looking at a new 3500 meg cab DRW with the Aisin transmissions -- does anyone have input on this :) ???

ATCguy 04-19-2016 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Helidriver (Post 39245)
-- does anyone have input on this :) ???

Ha... You know that's a loaded question, right? :D

I'm a Ford guy, so that's what I'm gonna recommend... but I really have nothing bad to say about the Rams. Like most things, my advise is to go with what YOU'RE comfortable with.

jgaroni 04-19-2016 01:52 AM

I was looking real hard at the mega cab 3500 last year. Was a little nervous about the 1st year aisin, And at least in my neck of the woods all you could find is the 3:42 rear end. If you like it go for it. Dang nice trucks. I love my gmc 3500 though.

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Helidriver 04-19-2016 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jgaroni (Post 39251)
I was looking real hard at the mega cab 3500 last year. Was a little nervous about the 1st year aisin, And at least in my neck of the woods all you could find is the 3:42 rear end. If you like it go for it. Dang nice trucks. I love my gmc 3500 though.

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I am noticing the 3.42 rear end which is kinda annoying , I hear good things about the aisin tranny, would love to hear from someone that has it???? :) -- how is the GMC with the Allison Tranny?

calewjohnson 04-19-2016 09:19 AM

I am on my first Ford, before this, I had been a GM fanatic...to include my LLY Duramax. After I had some debilitating issues with my Chevy, I started doing some shopping. I wanted to buy my last truck. I drove all three, did some digging on info, and went with the Ford. I do not regret it yet.

The GM products ride like a Caddy, always have, they do a great job in that respect, I had some front end problems on my Chevy, was told that is the way it is because of the independent front suspension.

The Dodge was good, I have a couple of friends with them and they love them, I was in CA at the time and could not find an Aisin equipped truck with the options I wanted. Most of the Dodges were work equipped or cab/chassis models.

Bought the Ford, sight unseen, after driving a buddies 2014 F250. It was just as responsive than my 05 (tuned with EFI Live), the cab layout was nice, and it had a lot of creature comforts I had never had. I told the dealer the options I wanted and how much I planned on towing and he found it 300 miles away.

In the end, I went with the the one that had the best towing capacity. Similarly equipped/price Dodge or GM could not hold a fire to what I have now. I had to decide on the F450 and F350 at one point, but while the F450 can pull more wrt trailer weight, my max payload with the 4.3 gears is higher. Which was a must as I have a 98 gallon transfer tank in the bed.

Full of fuel, trailer connected and ready to roll, my truck weighs 14k (my max) on the nose, scale verified, and she handles it very well.

Happy hunting!

Cale

Denviola 04-19-2016 09:26 AM

I have the Aisin trans and 4.10 gears. It is 6 speed with 5th and 6th as overdrives. My '14 DRW is rated to tow 29000# - crew cab and long bed. I know you can only get the mega cab with short bed, but I would not tow with short bed and slider hitch. Just my preference, with the factory hitch mount system you can use the truck bed by easily removing the hitch. I some times tow without the cruise control as I think it downshifts too easily. Easier to anticipate hills and speed up with less downshifting. When not towing I can get 20-21 mpg on highway if i stay below 65 mph.
All trucks have nice features. Ford is now showing a trailer backing assist feature. It's all in what you want. I prefer the RAM and the Cummins, appears to be bulletproof and I'm a repeat buyer. First time with the Aisin trans in the TV. Aisin is a huge international company. Both our Saabs have Aisin trans.

calewjohnson 04-19-2016 09:35 AM

I saw the 2017 build sheet for the Super Duty trucks...lots of gizmos and gadgets to break. Not only trailer backup assist, but 360 degree camera coverage, auto wipers, auto adjust cruise, amongst other stuff... Again, lots of stuff to break.

WRT towing capacity, the amount of trailer I can tow is not as high on my list as how much weight I can put in the truck. The Ford numbers (I suspect all really) are such that you will run out of Cargo Carrying Capacity long before getting to the max tow weight, when pulling an RV.

For me with my tank of fuel and 3800 lb pin weight, people and gear, I have 5800 lbs "cargo" in the truck, yet the trailer only weighs 19,800. Even if I took the fuel out and added more pin weight to get to max capacity, I would still be shy of my max towing. Now, if pulling a bulldozer, different story, but for the RV user, I would worry more about CCC and less about towing capacity.

Cale

ewacowboy 04-19-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Helidriver (Post 39245)
So I currently have a 2015 - 2500 crew cab ram with the Cummins - it does seem to pull the 2016 v3305 okay but is over GVW - have been looking at a new 3500 meg cab DRW with the Aisin transmissions -- does anyone have input on this :) ???

I had a 2010 Dodge 3500 dually and will never buy one again. The engine will pull just about anything but the suspension was really expensive upkeep. Driveline u-joint at 20K and front axle u-joints at 55K! Wife and I really liked the interior though. If I were to buy another light duty truck I'd go with the Ford....JMO :D

lcv800 04-19-2016 12:23 PM

Kind of thinking that there isn't one truck that's better than the rest. For every "good" story, there is a "bad" one. If there was a bonafide single "better" truck, everyone would buy it. That's why there are the big three (Ford, Chevy, and Dodge). It's all a matter of personal opinion and taste. Just my humble opinion.
Rusty

thompwil 04-19-2016 12:25 PM

So far, I love my 3500 DRW with the Aisin. I have the 3:42 gears and it's rated to tow 20,500lbs with that set up so it works good with our 3305. The crew cab is huge and I'm not sure that the interior space trade off is worth sacrificing the eight foot bed. The rear seating area is very large and adult comfortable even with the front seats all the way back. I put a 60 gallon transfer tank in mine and still have room inside and out. We towed through the Black Hills last summer and, through the Badlands too. Didn't even break a sweat. The Aisin transmission is well worth the money. I towed the same trailer with a 2008 Ram, 2500, 6.7 with the 68RFE (a story for another time), and the difference in the transmission is very noticeable. Shifts are smooth and firm, no hunting for gears on hills, and it runs cool in all conditions. My 68 was constantly shifting on a long uphill pull, and didn't handle exhaust braking as well. It felt like the drive train was being "torqued" by the load causing a jerky deceleration. The chassis' have been beefed up since that year so I can't say for sure what caused that issue. The brake controller works great after I learned the proper way to adjust the manual adjusters on the trailer too. I have seen 12mpg on flat land with no wind 65mph, but don't expect to see that too often. The average is 10-10.5 overall.

Check out the towing capacity interactive page to see how gears and configurations play out with different set ups. Ram Trucks - Towing Guide - Capacity Chart

As was stated already in this thread, all the big 3 trucks are pretty awesome these days. I've been a Ram guy for quite a while, on my 4th one and beat the crap out of 2 of the other 3 with 100K + miles and were still going strong. The only exception was my 2005 that I got with the short bed. I traded it in after 3 years since I hated the short bed. If you're going to drop a pile of cash into a new truck, the Aisin is well worth the upgrade, you will not regret it.


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