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Old 05-05-2017, 09:58 AM   #1
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What Size Truck?

Lets start out saying that I am brand new to RV's and totally retarted when it comes to trucks.

We just bought a new 2016 Denali 293RKS. We have not picked it up yet and we dont have a truck yet. We will be full-timers.

The specs show the following:
Avg Shipping weight 10,000
Cargo capacity 2100
Dry hitch Weight 2000

I have been told that a 250/2500 Super Duty should be just fine. A 350/3500
will be better.
Diesel is better than gas.

OK, got that part. Now, I will be buying a pre-owned truck so I cant always get everything I want.

I was told that the drivers side inside door frame should have a tag with the vehicle specs. What exactly should I be looking for?

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This is the sticker you are looking for usually on the drivers door jam along with another telling you the tire inflation pressures.
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Thanks

I see the GVWR, I guess that is the GVW of the truck and all it's contents?
Does that include any pin weight?

I assume that the GAWR is the Gross Axle Weught.

So, how is this telling me how much I can pull and put on the pin weight?

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Basically the GVWR is the total weight the truck can handle it includes the curb wright of the truck, weight of any passengers and weight of any cargo. so the case of the of this sticker 11000lbs, minus curb weight of truck, weight of passengers and weight of any cargo. Keep in mind I'm not sure what truck this picture is from might be an F350 for all I know. For an example I'll do the number using my personal numbers. (Ram 3500 w/cummins mega cab 4x4)

my sticker says 12400, curb Weight of my truck 8000 lbs = 4400 lbs remaining, minus cargo & passengers = 3400 remaining. minus my pin weight of 1600 lbs = 1800 lbs remaining. In my case the numbers work and they should I did a lot of research before I bought my truck. You also have to llok at GCWR of the TV (tow vehicle) in my case 25000 lbs minus truck weight and trailer weight including all cargo Truck 10600 lbs + trailer 11000 loaded = 21600 lbs I have room to spare.

In the end you will get a lot of different answers to your question some will say the 3/4 ton is fine, some will say it isn't. In the end its up to you and how you feel. Others will tell you that you can upgrade a 3/4 ton with air bags and spring to take on the extra weight, although this will help with any sag experienced do to the heavy weight, but keep in mind this will never according to law increase the weight rating of your truck beyond that it was originally rated for.

Last but not least in all my years I have heard many people say they wish they had bought more truck for towing but I can't ever remember ever hearing anyone say the wish they has less truck for towing.

Something to keep in mind. Hope this helps a little.
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Cargo capacity is the big one for trucks, that's where you will go over weight first.

Diesel is "better" than gas? That's completely dependent on your circumstances...
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...Last but not least in all my years I have heard many people say they wish they had bought more truck for towing but I can't ever remember ever hearing anyone say the wish they has less truck for towing...
Amen... Amen... and AMEN!!
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There is no one size fits all answer. I have had some F250 trucks that were better suited for towing than some D300 trucks. All the 150, 250, 350 stuff does is get you in the ball park. Then you have to start looking at the details like axle ratios, axle capacity, cargo capacity, long bed, short bed, DRW vs SRW, Crew cab, straight cab, club cab, GVW, GCVW, towing capacity, pin weight, transmission, tow package, etc, etc.

My general rule of thumb is to find out what the manufacturer says the towing capacity of the truck is, then take 75% of that against the GVW of the trailer I want to pull. As long as I am below the 75% number I know I am well within the ball park. If it is over that I better start looking a lot closer at my numbers.

Gas vs diesel is about like Chevy vs Dodge. Diesel gets you a lot of low end power and with the newer ones some decent top end power too. Gas is less expensive on the front end and if you aren't a high mileage driver is probably less expensive to maintain the long run.


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The only thing I know for sure about towing RV's is don't believe anything the RV dealer tells you!!!
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There are so many variables in 3/4 and in 1 ton trucks. That door sticker tells a lot of information.
Not only the model designation and engine size, Axle ratio is a big one that effects tow capacity. Trans cooler / oil cooler is another.
On my 2013 Ford has a Base, a Towing Package (option code 535) a "Max Trailer Towing Package" (option code 627) and even call out a "Heavy-Duty Payload Package"! all with different ratings
Check this out and that is JUST the 150's
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...rv&tt_f150.pdf

Now to really make your head spin, don't think size matters. The 3.5L V-6 Ecobooste has better tow rating than my 5.0L V-8.
Back when I was an Auto Tech, Ford put their 300 CID inline 6 in 1 ton trucks!!
Do you need a 1 Ton Diesel Dually? probably not... You can find a truck with options to suite just about any need if you do your research.
Here is a chart from the link I posted. Purely to show what you can find with research on the options code any truck is available with.
So again, this is just an example of the different flavors for a F150 from 2013.
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Old 05-07-2017, 08:15 PM   #10
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Can I safely assume that with a 5th Wheel, that only the long 8' bed will do?
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