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Old 04-29-2016, 09:31 PM   #1
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Hensley Arrow or Equal-I-Zer Hitch

I know that this discussion on other forums has got a little nasty, but I could not find the answer I was looking for.

I am lucky enough to own a Hensley Arrow and an equal-i-zer wd hitch. I am towing with an 02 Cadillac Escalade AWD with towing package. I am looking at buying a 2016 Kodiak 291RESL. This will be my first TT.

The Escalade has a max tongue weight of 820lbs. The Kodiak 291RESL has a tongue weight of 839lbs. I already over the weight limit. I am wondering what hitch I should use and how tongue weight effects the towing. I know all of the GCVWR, gas weight, passenger weight, cargo weight... I just have not been able to find much on the tongue weight. The Hensley Arrow is a heavy beast. It weighs in at around 190 lbs! Does that mean the my new tongue weight would be 1029lbs? I have read that with a WD hitch you can go over the max tongue weight, but I want to make sure. I do not want to cause a dangerous situation, and I do not want to hurt my TV. Thank you for all of the help!
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The more weight added to the rear of the vehicle the more weight is taken off of the steering gear. The steering gets light and the vehicle wanders and the tail starts wagging the dog.

Are the tongue weights you are quoting on the camper, dry weight or loaded?
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Based on your description I would not tow with the set up you are proposing. You are over the limits in all directions. No hitch in the world can over come that.

I have not towed with a Hensley, I have towed with the Equalizer and it is a good hitch and does what it says it will IF you have a tow vehicle that is properly sized for the trailer you are towing. I was towing a 1970's 31' Airstream with a F150. I did well on flat ground but was under powered in the mountains. FWIW the AS was right at the upper limit of what the truck was rated for. Tongue weight is only one item in a complicated set of calculations.

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The tongue weight is dry. That is what I was thinking, I didn't really trust those people that told me I could go over the hitch weight.

Luckily the TT is only 6300 dry, so I can put weight in the back to reduce the tongue weight (I Know not to reduce it too much). I will probably need to go with the equal-i-zer hitch because of the weight of the Hensley Arrow.

I am a pilot, so I am going to do the weight calculations on the trailer, like I would the airplane, before every trip. I just could not find any good info on hitch weight. There are way too many people that just don't care if they go over the hitch weight.
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I do not use a weight distribution anti sway hitch. The new trucks come with anti sway and if you have a ultra light you do not need one if you tow within limits. It is just another way to get more money out of the uninformed. They are a waste of time and money for small ultra light trailers. Just another thing to mess with. If your trailer starts to fish tail just tap the trailer breaks and slow down. There I just saved you $500.00. Your welcome.
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The tongue weight is dry. That is what I was thinking, I didn't really trust those people that told me I could go over the hitch weight.

Luckily the TT is only 6300 dry, so I can put weight in the back to reduce the tongue weight (I Know not to reduce it too much). I will probably need to go with the equal-i-zer hitch because of the weight of the Hensley Arrow.

I am a pilot, so I am going to do the weight calculations on the trailer, like I would the airplane, before every trip. I just could not find any good info on hitch weight. There are way too many people that just don't care if they go over the hitch weight.
Wise decision, you don't want to be white knuckling it down the interstate while your heading out on your first camping trip. Seen more than one camper upside down in the median because they were towing too much trailer for the tow vehicle.

If you upgrade your tow vehicle and you go to the Hensley, you won't want to go back. I have towed with a Hensley since our Airstream days, now that we're towing the brick on wheels I have come to appreciate the Hensley. We have driven I90 across the great plains in 60 MPH crosswinds, when you look in the mirrors you see the trailer getting buffeted around, but you feel nothing in the seat of your pants.

Just take everything you see and hear with a grain of salt. Do your research and make the decission that you are comfortable with.
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Hi hddecker, I mean no disrespect but why on earth would you tow a travel trailer in 60 mph crosswinds? I for one would NEVER put myself or my loved ones in that kind of danger, not to mention everyone else on the road. It would not matter if you had a anti sway bar or not. 60 mph cross winds are very powerful and I hope the readers on this forum have better sense than to drive a travel trailer in such dangerous conditions.
Just take everything you see and hear with a grain of salt. Good advice!!!!
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Hi hddecker, I mean no disrespect but why on earth would you tow a travel trailer in 60 mph crosswinds? I for one would NEVER put myself or my loved ones in that kind of danger, not to mention everyone else on the road. It would not matter if you had a anti sway bar or not. 60 mph cross winds are very powerful and I hope the readers on this forum have better sense than to drive a travel trailer in such dangerous conditions.
Just take everything you see and hear with a grain of salt. Good advice!!!!
When you don't know what the crosswinds are while you're on the road and the trailer is not telegraphing anything you drive. I should have said gusting to sixty MPH, I only found out what the wind speed was when we stopped for fuel.
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There is nothing unsafe about towing in a high wind environment...AS LONG AS YOU ARE PROPERLY SETUP FOR IT!!!

There are some places we travel that has high winds...sometimes steady, sometimes gusting. You must do your due diligence and properly equip yourself and drive with confidence.

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Hi calewjohnson. If you took a second to READ my post I said towing a travel trailer! You have a 5th wheel which is attached to the bed of your truck. There is a BIG differance between a 5th wheel and a travel trailer. A travel trailer is attached to the rear of a truck via a hitch ball. So I hope this explanation of the 2 different kinds helped you out. All the self confidence in the world will not do any good when a 60 mph wind knocks your travel trailer over.
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