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Old 01-24-2017, 06:40 PM   #11
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Or buy the truck you want, then live in a house with a driveway so steep, you can't upgrade. That's my plan.
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Just another option on trucks........

In my reply above, I pointed out my F150 is so much nicer to be inside of. But since the old Dodge (same would be true for other makes) is the better "tool" for the job at times, I recently looked into what is possible for improving\updating the interior of an older vehicle. I really didn't know what was practical.

Found me an upholstery fella that's been doing it all his life. Really a craftsman!

Showed him both of my trucks and explained what the emotions were. Lol

He completely understood and we struck a deal.
Stripped the truck to bare metal inside.
Soundproofed it 360degrees. (one of the things that newer trucks are just superior) Custom carpet, Headliner, and totally hand done seating and console.
He was a bit shocked I didn't want leather, (personal comfort preference), but it's going to be a brand new truck inside. All for around $2500.00

The price was so reasonable I dumped off a bunch of high end stereo equipment and mentioned to him "uh.....since the truck is stripped, would you mind?"

Point is, these new Heavy Trucks are out of my "old man budget"
Thus my reason to always have an old 7.3 Ford or Cummins Dodge around for the heavy lifting.

Problem is that even if it is very easy to keep them running and capable of the task, it's getting harder and harder to get a nice one, and impossible to get a "new one"

This is my attempt.

It could be an option and you keep that sweet 1/2 ton.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:23 AM   #13
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If you're getting a new truck, you might as well factor in the weight of your next RV, as no doubt, you'll get the bug for something bigger down the road long before your truck wears out. Just sayin'.
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If I bought another truck I would rather go with a diesel version but it would be my daily driver and based on my needs I am not sure I could justify the additional 8-10,000 dollars it would cost. When my wife first brought up the idea of another truck I said ok, a diesel dually it is then. Turns out she is not a dually fan. Not liking the idea of a 800+ dollar a month payment. If I knew I could keep my payment close to what it is now I would by a new truck tomorrow.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:33 AM   #14
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Considering these campers push 1000lbs(or more) of tongue weight, i'd be willing to bet both of you are at or over cargo capacity. Actual trailer weight towed is seldom a problem...
I am not over but close. Our truck has little in it when we travel. Just the wife, me, 2 mountain bikes, and 1 loaded cooler. But still tongue weight is another concern/thing to consider. Even the 6.2 gas F250 will give me more cargo capacity than I currently have.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:40 AM   #15
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X2... he speaks the truth... buy one truck for your next 2 RV's... a Cummins 3500 dually or powerstroke F350 dually... if not you will end up buying 2 trucks as well...BUY THE TRUCK THAT CAN HAUL ANY RV.. and your options are limitless when the trade in itch bites you.


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Barry, Most of us here have had a few RV's over the years, that's why we say to buy more Truck then you need right now, or you will be buying a bigger truck later, I think most have started with a 1/2 Ton, but the next RV will need a 3/4 Ton, I have had 5 RV's over the years, I started with a Truck Camper (Still Have One), then 24ft Trailer, then 5th Wheel, and now my 2nd Toy Hauler, so go with a 3/4 Ton, then decide on Gas Type.....If your going to get a 5th Wheel, someday, go with Diesel....
This makes sense to me. I do not see a 5th wheel in my future but then again I did not see getting the 1st camper I bought in my future either.
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I like the way you think.
Actually, now that you've been here awhile and posted enough to know you a bit better, it is ME that likes the way you think.

As far as the post I made about reviving an older diesel Beast..........

There are some really good deals out there on the PRE-EGR valve diesels. In our modern culture, they are considered "done".

A new, nicely equipped 1 ton diesel by ANY manufacturer is, what you described, a multi-$hundred dollar a month decision. And while I think they ARE worth every penny they cost, like you, I'd have to consider it my daily driver.

Thus my "revive" strategy. I LOVE my daily driver. I love trucks period! But I can buy a brand spanking new nicely dolled up 1/2 ton for about 30K.....maybe a teeny bit over. Crew cab and plenty of comfort and room.

But it IS a category #2 truck in the RV world. (No matter how many times I have tried to reclassify it. LOL )

So, consider grabbing a well taken care of older diesel. It'll STILL be old, but incredibly cheap!
And then know this:
The engine can be brought back to BRAND new for ~$6500-7500. And with these diesels, the rebuilt can actually be better than the OEM was because you get to upgrade things like head bolts.
Then the next big ticket item is transmission.
This might be why I preferred the Dodge (I'm a Ford man emotionally) because if you are willing to throw some serious cash at it, the tranny on those old Dodges can be built to indestructible standards. (Not cheap. As much as the engine rebuild)
Then finally, the interior.........I just proved what $2500 can do. (I should be picking it up in the next day or 2 and I will post pics. It is awesome!!!)

So, although I'm not saying do it all at once, for the sake of making a point lets do!
New engine, new tranny, new interior. %85 Brand New Diesel Truck "functionally" speaking.

About $20K including buying the truck!
Ok, you find a sweeeet truck for more. Then $25K

Still, I'm not doing it all at once. I won't be doing the motor until she goes. That MIGHT be 20,000 more "towing only" miles? But might be 200,000 more "towing miles".

I will fund it with the money I DIDN'T make truck payments with.

Best of all, I get to keeeep my sweeeet daily driver.
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There are a lot of options with the older trucks. I just recently sold my 1996 F350 Crew Cab, Dually, Diesel for $8500. It was the 7.3 PSD with only 150,000 miles on it. Transmission was overdue for a rebuild. Someone got a helluva nice truck.

We have another Fugly Truck, that happens to be a 1995/96 Ford 4x4 F350 SRW PSD, plus cab. That beast cannot be killed. It has over 500k on the engine, we don't know for sure how much because the speedometer/odometer broke years ago. That one is a 5 speed. I put a new clutch in it ~6 years ago. IIRC we paid less than $5,000 for it 12 years ago. We use this one on the farm and probably will for the foreseeable future.

Take your time and find the best deal you can, it will be well worth it in the long run. New is not always better.

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Actually, now that you've been here awhile and posted enough to know you a bit better, it is ME that likes the way you think.

As far as the post I made about reviving an older diesel Beast..........

There are some really good deals out there on the PRE-EGR valve diesels. In our modern culture, they are considered "done".

A new, nicely equipped 1 ton diesel by ANY manufacturer is, what you described, a multi-$hundred dollar a month decision. And while I think they ARE worth every penny they cost, like you, I'd have to consider it my daily driver.

Thus my "revive" strategy. I LOVE my daily driver. I love trucks period! But I can buy a brand spanking new nicely dolled up 1/2 ton for about 30K.....maybe a teeny bit over. Crew cab and plenty of comfort and room.

But it IS a category #2 truck in the RV world. (No matter how many times I have tried to reclassify it. LOL )

So, consider grabbing a well taken care of older diesel. It'll STILL be old, but incredibly cheap!
And then know this:
The engine can be brought back to BRAND new for ~$6500-7500. And with these diesels, the rebuilt can actually be better than the OEM was because you get to upgrade things like head bolts.
Then the next big ticket item is transmission.
This might be why I preferred the Dodge (I'm a Ford man emotionally) because if you are willing to throw some serious cash at it, the tranny on those old Dodges can be built to indestructible standards. (Not cheap. As much as the engine rebuild)
Then finally, the interior.........I just proved what $2500 can do. (I should be picking it up in the next day or 2 and I will post pics. It is awesome!!!)

So, although I'm not saying do it all at once, for the sake of making a point lets do!
New engine, new tranny, new interior. %85 Brand New Diesel Truck "functionally" speaking.

About $20K including buying the truck!
Ok, you find a sweeeet truck for more. Then $25K

Still, I'm not doing it all at once. I won't be doing the motor until she goes. That MIGHT be 20,000 more "towing only" miles? But might be 200,000 more "towing miles".

I will fund it with the money I DIDN'T make truck payments with.

Best of all, I get to keeeep my sweeeet daily driver.
I love the idea bringing an "older" truck back to like new condition and I am pretty sure I could do most if not all the work myself. Fixing things is what I do for a living. I am the guy at work that gets pulled out of his nice clean office job when machines are down hard or have not been performing well for an extended period of time and the maintenance group is struggling to resolve it. With that being said I do not have the time to get the truck to the condition I would be satisfied with in the time frame I would like for it to be done. Therefore I would have to purchase new or slightly used. But the prices of new or even used trucks is crazy. Found a 2015 F350 local for $48,000.00. Looks great but has 68,000 miles on it. Meeting with a local dealer Friday during my lunch break to see what they will give me for my Tundra and maybe take a test drive or two.
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There are a lot of options with the older trucks. I just recently sold my 1996 F350 Crew Cab, Dually, Diesel for $8500. It was the 7.3 PSD with only 150,000 miles on it. Transmission was overdue for a rebuild. Someone got a helluva nice truck.

We have another Fugly Truck, that happens to be a 1995/96 Ford 4x4 F350 SRW PSD, plus cab. That beast cannot be killed. It has over 500k on the engine, we don't know for sure how much because the speedometer/odometer broke years ago. That one is a 5 speed. I put a new clutch in it ~6 years ago. IIRC we paid less than $5,000 for it 12 years ago. We use this one on the farm and probably will for the foreseeable future.

Take your time and find the best deal you can, it will be well worth it in the long run. New is not always better.

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Good advice on new is not always better. I know if I decide to go used it will be a diesel. Never owning one makes me nervous because I do not know what to look for in a used diesel. What is acceptable or considered low mileage for example. Definitely need to educate myself on this before looking seriously at a used diesel truck. Part of me says the hell with it, bite the bullet now and get a new 350 dully. At least I will not have to ever worry about needing a bigger truck. Wife is really against a dully as I have mentioned. Primarily the maintenance cost and have to find a local shop that can deal with things like an alignment.
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Depends on your comfort level. I consider anything under 200,000 on a diesel reasonable as long as it has been taken care of.

Now the caveat, that would be on the older diesels like the 7.3 and the older Cummins. I am not a fan of the older Duramax, they were notorious for eating injectors at 100,000 miles intervals. The 6.0 engine that replaced the 7.3 PSD was a disaster and I would not purchase one, my Ford dealer techs tell you not to buy one either. The 6.4 and the 6.7 are better. If you buy used you are going to want to see service records for it. I would not buy one without them, unless they give me a really, really good deal. One issue IMHO with the newer diesels is the complexity of them to meet the emission standards. I would do a very thorough cost analysis of the number of miles you expect to drive against the costs of owning a diesel. FWIW my current motor home has the big Ford V10 in it and I am happy with the power to move that 13,000#+ beast down the road. I also have the 6 speed automatic and it is great so far.

Someone else will have to weigh in on the Cummins, I have never owned one, but have a couple of friends that do and swear by them.

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