no heating in my brand new 2018 Kodiak?? - Dutchmen Owners

Go Back   Dutchmen Owners > Dutchmen Technical | Towing, Maintenance and Repairs > Heating, Cooling and Appliances
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-13-2018, 05:26 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Jordan
Posts: 26
Utah
no heating in my brand new 2018 Kodiak??

Good evening. As of this week, we are first-time travel trailer owners. We just purchased a Dutchman Kodiak Ultra-Lite 255BHSL. Nearly 30' long total length and sleeps 7 or 8.

By the way, I have Googled and Googled and searched this forum, but did not find anything definitive. I also spoke with the dealer and even called Dutchman, but they struggled a bit to help.

My question: The RV comes with a 19,000 high-output furnace. In looking for trailers, I have probably walked in over 100 in the last two weeks. As we finalized our purchase of the trailer, I noticed something that stopped me dead in my tracks....NO HEATER VENTS AT ALL IN THIS TRAILER. The A/C is ducted and vented on the ceiling for sure (13.5k BTU, which sounds fairly common). But there are no heater vents. None in the floor of the main area. None in the bathroom. And none in the main bedroom (full-size 80" long queen with doors that shut). Just a big heater output venty thingy between the fridge and rear bunks. What is even weirder is that some of the SHORTER 2018 Kodiak Ultra-Lites have floor heating vents, and some LONGER than mine have them, but not ours.

I am so concerned and worried that the front bedroom will get cold on cool nights. I enjoy it cold, but my wife does not.

Is my particular heater somehow enough and will work just fine to heat the unit? I certainly hope so. Can I run the A/C fan only in cold weather to move heat around? Please help me out, but be sensitive to the fact that we just bought this and don't want to feel crappy about it. I want this to be a fun time.
__________________

Hart_family is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 11:14 AM   #2
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 2,961
North Carolina
Welcome to the forums! I haven't seen a larger modern trailer without heating vents... But I haven't been around long enough to see everything... yet.

Can you get us a picture of the furnace and possibly the make and model number tag?

Yes you can run the fan on the AC, but I would think you would lose a fair bit of warmth by doing it that way. Perhaps a couple of strategically placed small fans would work better?

Unfortunately with Dutchmen even the impossible is possible.

Aaron
__________________

__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 11:31 AM   #3
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 2,961
North Carolina
I can't find any brochures or documentation that state what furnace is in the Ultra-Lite. So it may well have a non-ducted furnace. The few pictures I could find show a single vent furnace. They also don't call out a heated underbelly in the Ultra-Lite line which by itself doesn't mean anything, but could be an indicator that they chose not to use a duct furnace on that line.

Aaron
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 11:50 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Roselle
Posts: 1,074
Illinois
I know this may sound stupid, but have you looked at other identical RV's to your model. Just maybe they ran the flooring over the vents and didn't cut them out. They've made bigger mistakes on the assembly line.
Rusty
__________________
2015 Black F-350 Platinum Diesel Dually Crew Cab
2019 Riverstone Legacy 38MB (Full Paint/All Options)
2015 Voltage 3990 (Full Paint, All Options) Sold 6/18
2005 Harley Ultra Classic w/too many miles
lcv800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 01:18 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: tampa
Posts: 1,157
Florida
definitely strange. I just watched a walk through video of your unit and there are NO vents!

franktafl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 02:39 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
wildwest450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sparta
Posts: 1,374
Tennessee
I'd be more concerned as how your going to keep a 30 foot camper cool out west with one small air conditioner, a couple of small space heaters are cheap, safe and effective. The unit that came with the camper is a propane eating machine.
__________________
2014 Aerolite 213 RBSL
2016 Chevrolet Colorado
wildwest450 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 09:37 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Jordan
Posts: 26
Utah
updates and responses to questions

Thanks everyone! Here are some updates and responses to your good questions:

(1) I have looked at EVERY 2018 Kodiak Ultra-Lite 255BHSL on the lot. All of them have a single 19,000 high output furnace, but NONE of them have ducted vents anywhere (e.g., in the bathroom OR bedroom). Since the bedroom is closed off by doors, this is why I was concerned. So just a single big furnace output/vent between the fridge and the rear bunks.

(2) I have looked at EVERY OTHER Kodiak Ultra-Lite on the lot, some smaller, some bigger (21', 22', 23' 24' and 27'). ALL OF THEM have heating vents. This is the ONLY 2018 Kodiak Ultra-Lite model that does not have ducted heat. Just not sure why, and more importantly, how do the bedroom people stay warm when it is in the 30's outside.

(3) My particular Kodiak Ultra-Lite comes with the "cold-weather package", which flows heat into the enclosed underbelly. Funny they put heat in to the underbelly but not where people sleep. Perhaps I will sleep in the underbelly instead of the bedroom.

(4) The 13,500 BTU A/C is ducted and vented everywhere, along the ceiling. Not too worried about that.

(5) I was hoping to run the A/C fan ONLY to move heat around, but it sounds like that will not work off of battery only.
Hart_family is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:27 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
wildwest450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sparta
Posts: 1,374
Tennessee
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hart_family View Post
(4) The 13,500 BTU A/C is ducted and vented everywhere, along the ceiling. Not too worried about that.
I'll remember you said that.
__________________
2014 Aerolite 213 RBSL
2016 Chevrolet Colorado
wildwest450 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:43 PM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Jordan
Posts: 26
Utah
hahaha...wildwest450

I suppose all I meant is that our new Kodiak has about the same A/C as most or all similar models. We will see how cool we stay this summer.

It is just the darn heater/vents that caught us off guard. I spoke to the dealer today and they INSIST that it is not an issue...that the front bedroom will have plenty of heat and this type of one-vent heater is common, especially on similar-sized toy haulers. Plus, I have been reading many posts about duct problems anyhow (e.g., bathroom too hot, vents not flowing, etc.) So we'll see. Gulp.
Hart_family is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 11:05 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 11
Arizona
Heat to underbelly, Don,t be too sure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hart_family View Post
Thanks everyone! Here are some updates and responses to your good questions:

(1) I have looked at EVERY 2018 Kodiak Ultra-Lite 255BHSL on the lot. All of them have a single 19,000 high output furnace, but NONE of them have ducted vents anywhere (e.g., in the bathroom OR bedroom). Since the bedroom is closed off by doors, this is why I was concerned. So just a single big furnace output/vent between the fridge and the rear bunks.

(2) I have looked at EVERY OTHER Kodiak Ultra-Lite on the lot, some smaller, some bigger (21', 22', 23' 24' and 27'). ALL OF THEM have heating vents. This is the ONLY 2018 Kodiak Ultra-Lite model that does not have ducted heat. Just not sure why, and more importantly, how do the bedroom people stay warm when it is in the 30's outside.

(3) My particular Kodiak Ultra-Lite comes with the "cold-weather package", which flows heat into the enclosed underbelly. Funny they put heat in to the underbelly but not where people sleep. Perhaps I will sleep in the underbelly instead of the bedroom.

(4) The 13,500 BTU A/C is ducted and vented everywhere, along the ceiling. Not too worried about that.

(5) I was hoping to run the A/C fan ONLY to move heat around, but it sounds like that will not work off of battery only.
I have a 2017 201QB Kodiak and had issues with the fresh water tank supports (almost fell out) and had to remove the underbelly, I was looking for the belly heat vent and could not find it, turns out it didn't go through, it was mounted to floor inside for looks I guess and even if it went through it would have been on the top of the grey tank. I had to completely relocate it.
__________________

AETHERIA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Dutchmen RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT. The time now is 02:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.