|
12-17-2018, 06:37 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 376
Texas
|
Fresh water tank leak repair
We have a Voltage 3990 with a fresh water leak coming right around the joint where the low point drain is. Looks like too much flex and the seam has given way. Anybody know of an easy DIY permanent fix that doesn't require tank removal?
__________________
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990, 600AH LifeBlue, 1895W Solar, 3K Magnum w/AGS, 3X Micro-Air ES
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
|
|
|
12-18-2018, 10:57 AM
|
#2
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 3,157
North Carolina
|
Not sure if they make epoxy that will stick to polyethylene. I do know you can thermal weld the plastic if you have the right kind of rod. Then consider some sort of reinforcement to keep it from happening again.
Aaron
__________________
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
|
|
|
12-18-2018, 11:36 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Wesley Chapel
Posts: 3,051
Florida
|
Not sure how permanent it is or what type of surface prep is required, but have you thought about this stuff? I keep a couple of short rolls of it on the RV in case of emergency.
https://www.asseenontvexpress.com/pr...smart_campaign
|
|
|
12-18-2018, 01:15 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 376
Texas
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahoonc
Not sure if they make epoxy that will stick to polyethylene. I do know you can thermal weld the plastic if you have the right kind of rod. Then consider some sort of reinforcement to keep it from happening again.
Aaron
|
That was my original thought, Aaron, just didn't want to buy more tools I will only use once or twice full timing
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990, 600AH LifeBlue, 1895W Solar, 3K Magnum w/AGS, 3X Micro-Air ES
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
|
|
|
12-18-2018, 01:17 PM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 376
Texas
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by franktafl
|
Thanks Frank, that all the boss kept saying. I saw it on TV it works on the bottom of that boat! Have to make try it as it is cheaper than buying tools.
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990, 600AH LifeBlue, 1895W Solar, 3K Magnum w/AGS, 3X Micro-Air ES
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
|
|
|
12-18-2018, 04:29 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Wesley Chapel
Posts: 3,051
Florida
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSCLARK
Thanks Frank, that all the boss kept saying. I saw it on TV it works on the bottom of that boat! Have to make try it as it is cheaper than buying tools.
|
I would make sure I used the tape and not the liquid because of the extra reinforcement.
|
|
|
12-19-2018, 01:14 AM
|
#7
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 3,157
North Carolina
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSCLARK
Thanks Frank, that all the boss kept saying. I saw it on TV it works on the bottom of that boat! Have to make try it as it is cheaper than buying tools.
|
But what is the boat made out of? And will the stuff stick to Polyethylene or whatever the tank is made out of?
Let us know if it works...
Aaron
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
|
|
|
12-19-2018, 01:56 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Graceville, FL
Posts: 148
Florida
|
I bought a plastic welder from HF long ago to repair our plastic stock tanks I also patched a kayak with it. It worked pretty good. The price was cheap and came with a handful of assorted rods, it also needs an air compressor for it to work properly. The instructions were pretty easy but for it to work you need to follow them.
https://www.harborfreight.com/80-wat...kit-60662.html
__________________
Roy & Mary Fralick and our 5 camping Chihuahuas, Gypsy, Sammy, Delilah, Pebbles and Mitzi
|
|
|
12-23-2018, 03:31 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Capron
Posts: 413
Illinois
|
You can use an epoxy called Hysol blended with milled glass. The key to make it work is you need a good mechanical bond and a very clean surface. Wire brush or 36 grit sand paper to rough up the entire area, beyond where the epoxy will go, and wipe down with denatured alcohol.
Mix the epoxy and milled glass into a paste and apply it. Use an acid brush to work it into the grooves, this is key, you need 100% coverage or it will fail. Once worked in, take a wide popsicle stick and apply the rest, if it sags, add more glass. A heat gun can also help it adhere, the warmer surface will let the epoxy flow better.
When done, adding a layer of fiberglass cloth can strengthen the repair.
Now here is where it can fail with epoxy, movement. If the crack was caused by movement, correct that first, then use the epoxy.
https://www.rcplanet.com/finishing-s...saAt-VEALw_wcB
https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-23711...26032522&psc=1
|
|
|
12-23-2018, 04:32 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 376
Texas
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by acdii
You can use an epoxy called Hysol blended with milled glass. The key to make it work is you need a good mechanical bond and a very clean surface. Wire brush or 36 grit sand paper to rough up the entire area, beyond where the epoxy will go, and wipe down with denatured alcohol.
Mix the epoxy and milled glass into a paste and apply it. Use an acid brush to work it into the grooves, this is key, you need 100% coverage or it will fail. Once worked in, take a wide popsicle stick and apply the rest, if it sags, add more glass. A heat gun can also help it adhere, the warmer surface will let the epoxy flow better.
When done, adding a layer of fiberglass cloth can strengthen the repair.
Now here is where it can fail with epoxy, movement. If the crack was caused by movement, correct that first, then use the epoxy.
https://www.rcplanet.com/finishing-s...saAt-VEALw_wcB
https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-23711...26032522&psc=1
|
Ok, acdii, but can it be repaired upside down with this method? I don't have a clue if my 80gal tank can even be removed. I tried the HF iron, it doesn't heat up enough to melt the tank to get it to bond before the plastic strips start burning.
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990, 600AH LifeBlue, 1895W Solar, 3K Magnum w/AGS, 3X Micro-Air ES
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
|
|
|
12-23-2018, 06:17 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Capron
Posts: 413
Illinois
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSCLARK
Ok, acdii, but can it be repaired upside down with this method? I don't have a clue if my 80gal tank can even be removed. I tried the HF iron, it doesn't heat up enough to melt the tank to get it to bond before the plastic strips start burning.
|
This is purpose of the milled glass, to thicken the glue so it will stay in place. Adding a layer of glass cloth, the kind used in auto body repair which if you have a local hobby shop that has RC planes, may have strips of it in stock, will help secure it.
It has a 30 minute working time, so should have enough time to get it completely covered, and as it starts to set will start to thicken at which point will stay in place.
I used to use gas tank repair kits to repair a holed steel tank, so working underneath can be a pain, but can be done.
I also ran across this, https://www.icondirect.com/holding-t...YaApvqEALw_wcB
It might work for your need as well. Mixes with acetone.
|
|
|
12-23-2018, 09:01 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 376
Texas
|
Well, job done! I peeled and scraped the first try all off and it never really sealed. So I took my time this time and went real real slow and it did melt the plastic enough to seal the cracks while adding zip ties melted in. Filled tanks up with 160 gallons of fresh water and it's holding great.
__________________
__________________
Chris & Donna
2014 Voltage Epic 3990, 600AH LifeBlue, 1895W Solar, 3K Magnum w/AGS, 3X Micro-Air ES
2018 RAM 3500 Laramie Sport Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins, AISIN 4X4 DRW 4.10 Long Bed Dually
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|