Blew the breaker - Dutchmen Owners

Go Back   Dutchmen Owners > Dutchmen Technical | Towing, Maintenance and Repairs > Electrical, Batteries, Charging and Electronics
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-10-2017, 05:46 AM   #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Sheridan
Posts: 9
Texas
Blew the breaker

All i did was try to blow dry my hair.
__________________

KathyJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 09:12 AM   #2
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 2,571
North Carolina
Main breaker or the circuit the hair dryer was on?

Typical blow dryer is 1100-1500 watts which works out to around 10-12 amps, which is between a third and half your total amps coming in on a 30 amp trailer. If you had the A/C on, fridge and possibly the electric water heater element I wouldn't be surprised.

Aaron
__________________

__________________
There is method in my madness
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 12:15 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: tampa
Posts: 213
Florida
common problem. happens all the time. Look to see what else you have plugged in. MOST of the circuits in an RV are connected together, the max allowed is 5 outlets in series on one cb by the NEC. MOST of the circuit breakers in an RV are 15 amp which "trips" at 60% of its rated value (data center cb's are rated at 90 - 100% rated value). 12v systems are on fuses. Once you learn what is connected together, you will be happier. By the way, if you tripped the breaker on the campground side, figure out what is most likely running (WahooNC is correct) at the same time. More of an issue in the wintertime since those electric heaters pull LOTS of power as well as the hot water heater and furnace (if running). IF that is an issue, possibly you could purchase a 50 amp to 30 amp pigtail and use the 50 amp outlet if available.
franktafl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 02:50 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
wildwest450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sparta
Posts: 1,072
Tennessee
It seems like it was only yesterday that I had "the blow dryer" talk with the wife.

Especially since she's a hair stylist by trade and has a $350 blow dryer that puts out a staggering 1900 watts. Yes dear, it's like running 2 small microwaves at a time.
__________________
2014 Aerolite 213 RBSL
2016 Chevrolet Colorado
wildwest450 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 03:00 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Southgate
Posts: 49
Michigan
Quote:
Originally Posted by franktafl View Post
...MOST of the circuit breakers in an RV are 15 amp which "trips" at 60% of its rated value...
Where did you get that from????????????
Unless someone changed the NEC rules recently, A circuit breaker will carry 100% of its rated load. It will carry 80% of its rated load on a continuous basis (more than 3 hours).
nickthehunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 03:34 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: tampa
Posts: 213
Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickthehunter View Post
Where did you get that from????????????
Unless someone changed the NEC rules recently, A circuit breaker will carry 100% of its rated load. It will carry 80% of its rated load on a continuous basis (more than 3 hours).

NEC states that they be rated between 80% and 100% but conversations with Schneider say the are reliable to 60% for sure. Plus, they have a 20% tolerance so an 80% breaker may trip at 80% - 16 or almost 60% - ish while the 100 % stuff is supposed to be 100 to 125%.
franktafl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 03:59 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Southgate
Posts: 49
Michigan
Quote:
Originally Posted by franktafl View Post
NEC states that they be rated between 80% and 100% but conversations with Schneider say the are reliable to 60% for sure. Plus, they have a 20% tolerance so an 80% breaker may trip at 80% - 16 or almost 60% - ish while the 100 % stuff is supposed to be 100 to 125%.
I think you need to have another conversation with Schneider (whoever he is). We are not talking about 80% breakers, we are talking about full load breakers. 80% breakers are a whole different animal and last I knew, they weren't used in RV applications. And the 20% tolerance is for continuous load (more than 3 hours).
nickthehunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 05:06 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: tampa
Posts: 213
Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickthehunter View Post
I think you need to have another conversation with Schneider (whoever he is). We are not talking about 80% breakers, we are talking about full load breakers. 80% breakers are a whole different animal and last I knew, they weren't used in RV applications. And the 20% tolerance is for continuous load (more than 3 hours).
ummm... ok. I am sure they put 100% (precision) breakers in these rv's.
franktafl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 07:44 PM   #9
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Sheridan
Posts: 9
Texas
Water heater, fridge and a.c. all on. 😃
KathyJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2017, 08:06 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
wildwest450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Sparta
Posts: 1,072
Tennessee
Quote:
Originally Posted by KathyJB View Post
Water heater, fridge and a.c. all on. 😃
Haha, that will do it. Of course it's impossible to tell if the hot water heater was actually on or not. If the air was running and you turned on the blow dryer as the hot water element was firing up, that could do it. I tell my wife as long as the microwave and coffee pot aren't on she's good to go. Or you could just turn off the hot water heater for 10 minutes while you melt your hair.
__________________

__________________
2014 Aerolite 213 RBSL
2016 Chevrolet Colorado
wildwest450 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


DutchmenOwners.com is not in any way associated with Dutchmen Manufacturing, or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.