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Old 05-27-2017, 10:44 PM   #1
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Wiring a surge protector ???

Anybody hard wire a surge protector to a Voltage 3600 ?
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Old 05-28-2017, 12:48 PM   #2
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Anybody hard wire a surge protector to a Voltage 3600 ?
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Have wired several Progressive Industries 50A, they're the most robust protection, clear instructions, great tech support and warranty service, easy peasy.
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Thanks. I have been doing some research and I am thinking of the EMS PT50X portable by Progressive Ind. Only concern is theft. It says it comes with a ring to lock it to the pedestal. Any thoughts ?
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Old 05-28-2017, 03:30 PM   #4
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Thanks. I have been doing some research and I am thinking of the EMS PT50X portable by Progressive Ind. Only concern is theft. It says it comes with a ring to lock it to the pedestal. Any thoughts ?
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Yes, theft and one more thing to mess with on site. Hard wire is a no brainer once it's in.
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Thanks. I have been doing some research and I am thinking of the EMS PT50X portable by Progressive Ind. Only concern is theft. It says it comes with a ring to lock it to the pedestal. Any thoughts ?
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I have never had anything stolen from a campsite in my 40+ years of camping. You could buy the hardwired one, but as someone else on here pointed out, they use the portable to check the plug at the campsite first, BEFORE getting their monster rig settled in. On one occasion they ended up having to move to a different site due to bad post wiring, indicated by their EMS.

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I have never had anything stolen from a campsite in my 40+ years of camping. You could buy the hardwired one, but as someone else on here pointed out, they use the portable to check the plug at the campsite first, BEFORE getting their monster rig settled in. On one occasion they ended up having to move to a different site due to bad post wiring, indicated by their EMS.

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Hard wire will do the same and has display
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Hard wire will do the same and has display
I want to see ya test the campground post with a hardwired one... Before backing in...

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Similar to what wahoo states... I've been using a portable one for the past 4 years with no issues at all. No one has even messed with it to my knowledge.

Additionally, for what it's worth... a another (different) perspective on hard-wired vs. portable. This is a copy & paste from a previous post I made a few years ago when I was debating whether to get a hard-wired protector.

Again, for what it's worth. Your mileage may vary....


I asked my service guy about installing one... and he STRONGLY advised me to NOT get a hard-wired unit. Said he'd seen lots of rigs in his time come through for electrical work with one installed, and even a few units that had caught fire and were badly damaged. And all of them had trouble trying to get reimbursed for the cost of repairs.

His take was that... if Dutchmen had installed one with the build, then that'd be great. It'd be located in a convenient place... and (more importantly) if anything ever went wrong, it'd be covered under warranty.

As for an aftermarket one... he said that while they are far more convenient, in that you don't have that big, heavy, box on the end of the plug... if anything should ever go wrong with it, the hassles of trying to diagnose the trouble and/or remove it from the system completely are much more complicated.

And 'good luck' trying to prove to either Dutchmen, the dealer who installed it, or the company that made the surge protector that the problem is their fault to pay for repairs. That each would blame the other. Dutchmen would say the surge protector was defective or installed incorrectly... the surge company would say the rig electronics were defective or installed incorrectly... and the service dept. who installed it would say it was either bad wiring on the rig or the surge protector that caused it.

(and "good luck" going against their lawyers if you installed it yourself!!)

Either way, the rig owner would have to pay any repair costs up front, and then try to get reimbursed from whoever they could get to claim fault. Expect a few years before your case would ever appear in court.

All of that is avoided with a portable plug & play portable unit. There's virtually nothing to screw up. You plug the unit on the shore-power pole, plug your cord into the unit, and you're in business. Everything is self-contained, with no user modifications required.
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Portable one for past several years. Bought a lock and a cable but rarely use it.
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Thanks for all the help. I ordered the portable one.
This site is great. I have learned so much here in a very short time
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