Lights off battery only - Dutchmen Owners

Go Back   Dutchmen Owners > Dutchmen Brand RVs > General RV Related Discussions
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-01-2016, 05:01 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Long Island
Posts: 17
New York
Lights off battery only

As a general rule, how long should my lights stay on while dry camping? I just bought my first camper, a 2005 Kodiak, and the previous owner has one Napa 12 volt 24DCM installed.

I turned on a few cabin lights today while doing yard work just to test the battery strength (battery was full) and after an hour the lights were noticeably dimmer, almost off entirely, and when I pushed the battery tested pad it showed the battery at 1/3.

Resting battery voltage was 12.6 (after the hour test) and when plugged back to my house battery voltage is 13.4.

Thanks
__________________

Sweetlou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2016, 07:38 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 459
Montana
I'm not sure about incandescent bulbs, which it sounds like this one has. Switch them out to LED and lighting loads will be of virtually no concern. I think your description of the dimming suggests a weak battery though, or poor connections. Since it's used and the battery health is likely unknown, I would replace it. I always try to upgrade when replacing things.
__________________

__________________
2012 Aspen Trail 2710BH | 280 watts of solar on the roof | 2x6V GC batteries | 100% LED lighting | 1500 & 300 watt PSW inverters | so far strictly boondocking
ewarnerusa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2016, 07:43 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Long Island
Posts: 17
New York
Yes, lights are incandescent, not LED. I'm going to swing by local auto parts store and test the battery. From my online research a 24 battery is small but I assumed I would get more than an hour or so.

Thanks
Sweetlou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2016, 08:43 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 459
Montana
Good plan on the load test, that may reveal alot. A single group 24 is pretty small, probably about 70 Ah rating. If fully charged, a single incandescent bulb for an hour shouldn't be a problem though. If there is only room for one battery, see if a group 27 or larger will fit so you can replace it with as much capacity as possible. Try and get a true deep cycle, not a dual purpose or marine battery if you can avoid it. Better yet, get 2 batteries if there is room for them! Wire 2x12V in parallel or 2x6V in series. Costco has good prices on true deep cycle 6V golf cart batteries.
__________________
2012 Aspen Trail 2710BH | 280 watts of solar on the roof | 2x6V GC batteries | 100% LED lighting | 1500 & 300 watt PSW inverters | so far strictly boondocking
ewarnerusa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2016, 11:33 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Long Island
Posts: 17
New York
Perhaps I should clarify - I left 3 light fixtures on, totaling 6 incandescent bulbs.

After an hour the lights were so dim you could barely tell they were on.

I am just posting up to make sure this is not a normal time to expect a properly functioning group 24 battery to draw down this quickly

Thanks
Sweetlou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2016, 12:23 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Helena, MT
Posts: 459
Montana
I'd say not normal. According to this link, they draw about 1.5A each. So 6 for an hour is 9 Ah. Shouldn't be an issue for a battery.
https://www.etrailer.com/question-41917.html
__________________
2012 Aspen Trail 2710BH | 280 watts of solar on the roof | 2x6V GC batteries | 100% LED lighting | 1500 & 300 watt PSW inverters | so far strictly boondocking
ewarnerusa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2016, 09:35 AM   #7
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 3,138
North Carolina
I agree sounds like a weak battery. However I would get switched over to LED's ASAP. They draw a whole lot less power, leaving the battery power for important things... like television!

If you have to purchase a new battery I would consider getting two. I found out the hard way that a single battery won't make it through the night it you have to run the furnace. We were camping and the power went out due to a storm, power did not come back on until 12 hours later. Got down into the 40's that night and we ran the furnace, battery gave up around 4 am. IIRC power came back on around 8 am. That was a cold 4 hours! Went and sat in the truck with the heater on and plugged the trailer up to trickle charge the battery.

Aaron
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2016, 05:06 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
chily3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 411
California
For my aspen trail I switched over all of ours to these they have white light, We have noticed while reading a discoloration of some kind not really bad. Otherwise they are perfect.



https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	51WYKBC+WaL._SL1024_.jpg
Views:	63
Size:	36.1 KB
ID:	3717  
__________________

Mike & Emily-Sacramento, CA
Our 4th trailer (2016 Aspen Trail 1900RB)
2018 F150 STX 2.7 Eco Boost
chily3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2016, 08:51 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Roselle
Posts: 1,150
Illinois
Bulb Information

Can't remember who posted this originally, but it's been a great help.
Rusty
__________________
2015 Black F-350 Platinum Diesel Dually Crew Cab
2019 Riverstone Legacy 38MB (Full Paint/All Options)
2015 Voltage 3990 (Full Paint, All Options) Sold 6/18
2005 Harley Ultra Classic w/too many miles
lcv800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2016, 08:52 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Roselle
Posts: 1,150
Illinois
Lost Attachment

Sorry.
Rusty
__________________
2015 Black F-350 Platinum Diesel Dually Crew Cab
2019 Riverstone Legacy 38MB (Full Paint/All Options)
2015 Voltage 3990 (Full Paint, All Options) Sold 6/18
2005 Harley Ultra Classic w/too many miles
lcv800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2016, 08:55 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Roselle
Posts: 1,150
Illinois
Bulb Information

Hope I attached the file!
Rusty
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	38CABC51-143A-4EC1-9ACE-E1D57C9ABB24_zpsbr5wipaj.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	48.6 KB
ID:	3718  
__________________
2015 Black F-350 Platinum Diesel Dually Crew Cab
2019 Riverstone Legacy 38MB (Full Paint/All Options)
2015 Voltage 3990 (Full Paint, All Options) Sold 6/18
2005 Harley Ultra Classic w/too many miles
lcv800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2016, 10:05 AM   #12
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 3,138
North Carolina
Quote:
Originally Posted by chily3 View Post
For my aspen trail I switched over all of ours to these they have white light, We have noticed while reading a discoloration of some kind not really bad. Otherwise they are perfect.



https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just so you know... these come in different wattages and color ranges, so if you don't like the white you can order warm white which is closer to the incandescent in color. Make sure when you do order that you get the 12v-28v range, the super cheap 12v only ones will burn out rapidly if you use them heavily. These are the ones that I used. Here they are in the 10 pack, the ones for ~$20 for ten are the ones you want to stay away from.

Aaron
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2016, 05:58 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Meridian
Posts: 54
Idaho
Another option to purchase LED lights is: www.superbrightleds.com

I bought mine there and paid 4.95 per bulb. Camping world wanted $74.00 for a pair.

Rick
RickNTee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2016, 02:40 AM   #14
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Long Island
Posts: 17
New York
Thanks for the replies. I had the battery load tested and it failed miserably...

I ended up buying a 24 group from Walmart and upgrading my interior lights to LED. Maybe next year I will do the twin 6v battery upgrade
Sweetlou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2016, 04:15 PM   #15
Site Team
 
wahoonc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sprung Leak
Posts: 3,138
North Carolina
Glad you got it figured out. When you get ready to do the battery upgrade, look for the Trojan T-105RE. I have been doing a bunch of research recently and it seems to be the absolute best deep cycle battery on the market. Not going to be easy to find though. They come in flooded cell, Gel and AGM. I am going to stick with flooded cell mainly due to the high cost of the AGM. I am not a huge fan of Gel batteries they take some extra care when charging to not mess them up.

Aaron
__________________
There is madness to my methods
2015 Coleman CM16FBS(traded) 2016 Concord 300DS
2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid following along
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2018, 04:23 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: CORNVILLE
Posts: 64
Arizona
Replace with two 6 volt golf cart batteries wired in series, you can run the heater all night and still have a full charge
__________________

Yamaha YXZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Dutchmen RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×