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Old 06-06-2014, 11:22 PM   #1
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Weighed my 3200 before a trip- disturbing

Dutchman is way off on the posted weights for the 3200. I have a 2013 3200 epic II. Pin weight at 4200 lbs with no toys in the back. I know that will go down with a motorcycle or two. That put total weight of the 3200 at around 17000 lbs. which is 500 lbs over the GVWR. That was with no toys or water in the tanks. One fuel tank was 2/3 full. Anyone else weigh their unit. We were packed for the weekend so we also did not have a lot of stuff. I am glad I weighed it, but sort of wish I had not now.
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Old 06-07-2014, 01:26 AM   #2
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How exactly did you determine your weights? My 3905 carries a 3465lb pin weight.

This is how I did it- weighed the truck with me, hitch, and half a tank of fuel on a CAT certified scale. Then hooked up the trailer and weighed it on the same scale. Add front and rear axle weights for the truck on both scale sheets and subtract the first from the second and that will be your pin weight. The scale should give you the trailer axle weights. Add that to the pin weight, and that should be total trailer weight.

I know it sounds simple, but it can be tough to interpret the scale sheet correctly. Double check before you panic.
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Old 06-07-2014, 01:49 AM   #3
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4200LB is alot of pin weight. I really hope they were not off on their estimate by 1800lbs. I have not had a chance to weigh my v3605 yet. That scares me though bc they show a pin weight of 2900lbs for that unit. Has anyone with a 3605 weighed?
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:19 AM   #4
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Weighed my truck loaded 8440
Hooked up trailer loaded with what I need placed truck on scale separate from rear axels 11,360.
Axels on separate scale 12,100
Total 23,460

I took my 11,360 minus my 8440 equaled 2920 pin weight.
Pin weight 2920 plus axel weight 11,360 = 14,280 trailer weight.

This is not a perfect method but its fairly close. I would like to weigh axels separately the scales I use CAT are not set up right to split the two.

Hope this helps
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:46 AM   #5
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Dutchman is way off on the posted weights for the 3200. I have a 2013 3200 epic II. Pin weight at 4200 lbs with no toys in the back. I know that will go down with a motorcycle or two. That put total weight of the 3200 at around 17000 lbs. which is 500 lbs over the GVWR. That was with no toys or water in the tanks. One fuel tank was 2/3 full. Anyone else weigh their unit. We were packed for the weekend so we also did not have a lot of stuff. I am glad I weighed it, but sort of wish I had not now.
Go back and re-weigh it and get it right this time. lol
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Old 06-07-2014, 01:10 PM   #6
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I had acsess to a set of portable certified scales which is what I used. I may have improperly checked my pin weight. I put the scales under the front jacks and took the weight off the truck. When I get home I will double check by weighing the truck unhooked and subtracting the difference when I get back home.
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Old 06-07-2014, 05:51 PM   #7
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I am willing to bet that your weights will be a LOT different the second time.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:08 PM   #8
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I re-weighed to get my proper pin weight which was 3025lbs which sounds more reasonable. When adding the pin and axle weight I come up with a total of just over 16,000 lbs. that does not leave much extra. One motorcycle would put me at the GVWR of 16500lbs. Onyone hauling a garage full of toys and water will be way over. We love the unit but it seems you can't haul much in it if adding the pin weight and axle weight is the proper way to figure the total.
Anyone else find the GVWR is not enough on these trailers
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I weighted my 3605 had water tanks 3/4 full, full propane tanks, 15 gal of gas in rear tank, nothing in front tank & nothing in the garage. Axles were at 11,000 & pin was at 3,040 so well with in 16.5k GVWR
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That still doesn't sound quite right. My only other suggestion is to take the trailer and truck to a certified CAT scale and get it weighed there, then unhook and weigh the truck. The portables might be out of calibration, or something. Looking at the numbers you have, there should be more load capacity than 500lbs.
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