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Old 11-10-2015, 09:22 PM   #1
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Schwintek Issue Info from Today...

Just thought I'd pass this info on...

A neighbor here at the RV park had an interesting issue today with the Schwintek slide on their 3-week old new RV. It was a small Forrest River Class C unit with one driver-side slide, and one rear-facing slide. As they were packing up to depart... the side slide retracted as usual, but the rear slide didn't work at all.

The owners were a couple in their mid 60s, and this was their first ever RV... and first ever RV trip. Needless to say, they were not happy.

By the time I found out about it, a few others had already come over to prod & poke... but no one knew anything to do. So I began my limited check-list:

* Check fuse panel... fuse good.

* Check module for a flashing code... no flashes at all, unit appeared dead.

* Check module for incoming power... test light found good power.

* Tried initiating an electronic override to pull the slide in... no joy.

* Began process of manual override... found a Robinson-head screw, and no one (including me) had a Robinson bit driver. And try as we may, we could not get a Phillips, JIS, TORX, or Hex driver to work. You'd think that we could've gotten a bit with something in the square hole... but no joy with anything I had. That screw is in there TIGHT!

(This last one was/is kinda embarrassing for me... as I know I had one, but must have left it in Carolina. You can bet I'll be remedying that situation ASAP.)

Not wanting to do anything that might void the warranty on their new unit... neither they nor I were all that keen on trying to swap the modules, so they were kinda stuck. A trip to Lowes, Home Depot, and the local ACE hardware store all produced ZERO results on finding a Robinson-bit driver! They were either sold out, or didn't carry one... not even in their multi-bit driver units. Just our luck.

Long story short.. after calling a fleet of mobile RV techs earlier, with none them being able to come out this morning... one finally made his way over here about 30 mins ago. Diagnosis was that the control module was completely rusted out, with standing water inside the unit. Evidently, the rig had a leak somewhere.

So anyway, the slide is back in, and they are now on their way back home to return the unit to the dealer for repairs.

Lesson learned for me:

BUY A ROBINSON DRIVER for my tool kit!
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:51 PM   #2
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Im going to buy one also. kinda like American express don't leave without one thanks.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:43 PM   #3
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Most of the current crop of RV's are assembled with the Roberston screws. I use a Klein 11-in-1 for about 90% of my handheld driver duties. I actually have 6 of these tools. One in each vehicle, one in the camper, one in the house and one in the shop. The #2 square drive is close enough to the Roberston for government work.

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I always use a #2 square bit...didn't know there was an actual name for the screw, other than the long list of name calling that ensues every time I have to deal with those stupid mother.....

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Need a Robertson screwdriver? Find a Canadian. We don't use those rotten Phillips things.
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Need a Robertson screwdriver? Find a Canadian. We don't use those rotten Phillips things.
Don't believe in warm water either...

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Warm water? Sure we do. Maybe not warm weather.
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:01 PM   #8
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Warm water? Sure we do. Maybe not warm weather.
After seeing a bunch of them swimming in a unheated swimming pool in South Carolina in December?

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I always use a #2 square bit...didn't know there was an actual name for the screw, other than the long list of name calling that ensues every time I have to deal with those stupid mother.....

Ha! I hear ya...

Here's my go-to illustration when I need to find an odd driver... and even it leaves a few of them off. Most notable to me is Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS), which looks like a Phillips, but is slightly different, and used on most Honda motorcycles. Fastest way to strip the head off on a Honda brake reservoir lid screw is to use a Phillips instead of a JIS.

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Ha! I hear ya...

Here's my go-to illustration when I need to find an odd driver... and even it leaves a few of them off. Most notable to me is Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS), which looks like a Phillips, but is slightly different, and used on most Honda motorcycles. Fastest way to strip the head off on a Honda brake reservoir lid screw is to use a Phillips instead of a JIS.

Thanks for the pic...printing and putting in the tool box. Two notes, I have a set with almost all of those, picked the set up at Harbor Freight for $5...not high quality, but good enough...

Had a 2007 VT750, know exactly what you are talking about with those silly screws.

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I don't see any metric screwdrivers in your diagram.
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Interesting! So I've dealt with Frearson most of my life while cursing that poor Philip guy!
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Don't believe in warm water either...

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Yes we do, we like warm water in our hot tubs.

I keep looking at ATCguys location and think only if it was about sixty-five we could stand the heat. Might have to spend all day having a Siesta on the shady side of the camper though.

The Robertson screw was one of the greatest Canadian inventions ever. The biggest problem is trying to find decent bits. I still have a couple of bits that are about thirty years old, can't find them anymore, Made in the USA and has a hardened tip. Had a Phillips from the same era and it broke my heart whem one of the teeth broke off when I left the clutch on 20.

I like the screws with the combo heads that can be driven by either a Phillips or Robertson bit. I find the Phillips bits have a better bite on these.
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Yes we do, we like warm water in our hot tubs.

I keep looking at ATCguys location and think only if it was about sixty-five we could stand the heat. Might have to spend all day having a Siesta on the shady side of the camper though.
Hey, the temps here are just about perfect now. The 100+-degree days are gone. Still a bit windy though...

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Hey, the temps here are just about perfect now. The 100+-degree days are gone. Still a bit windy though...

OK, you have almost convinced me. How long will it stay around sixty-five?

This could work, the way our dollar is going our, NASCAR tour next year just might go from about 15k and 5-6 races to somewhere around 5K, 1 race and maybe a couple of months in BUllhead City.

Know I need to know what the parks are like and what the rates are. Are there spots that you can get from Nov to mid Jan.
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