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Old 09-16-2019, 04:56 PM   #1
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Quality Control....waz dat?

Pre-winter maintenance revealed this little blind installer FU.


The corner with the black outline is WITHOUT any roof sheathing there. None, nada but the blind installers did what they had to do, screw it and goop the caulk on the trim piece.
Osmosis held it down for a few years but the screws eventually pulled out of nothing and the trim lifted.
The corner shows where the atmosphere had invaded the area but what is worse is the cut in the membrane they made. Loose fit is putting it gently at best.
I will never live long enough to understand how someone can just be so damn lazy as not to want to correct a problem like this. It will be said that speed is important to getting these things out the door but what actual real person could look the other way? Someone had to see the lack of a corner there.
I know one thing, I'd go pick **** with the chickens before I would work a job that allowed this kind of crap to leave the factory.

Bastards!!!
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:01 AM   #2
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Sorry for your issue.
I was going to suggest you send the pictures to the factory, just in case they cared.
But since it has been 6 years or so and whatever meth-head that worked on your camper is probably smoking crack someplace else by now, it may be a moot point.
The quality issues that are still out there from all manufacturers don't seem to go away, so there is that too.
I am sure you will do a great repair!
Good luck!
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Surprised it lasted as long as it did. Bummer nonetheless.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:41 PM   #4
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Surprised it lasted as long as it did. Bummer nonetheless.
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A rusty screw head caught my eye and my suspicious mind took over. The search was on for a problem that caused a face screw to be rusted when the others weren't.
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I am wondering what those people get payed? Probably not anything close to an auto worker. Does not excuse poor workmanship. But you get what you pay for.



For a family of 3.5 that is poverty wages.
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Old 09-17-2019, 04:06 PM   #6
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I am wondering what those people get payed? Probably not anything close to an auto worker. Does not excuse poor workmanship. But you get what you pay for.



For a family of 3.5 that is poverty wages.

What I paid and what we pay for these things demands a hell of a lot better workmanship than what we get.
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What I paid and what we pay for these things demands a hell of a lot better workmanship than what we get.



I agree. Like I said "Does not excuse poor workmanship".


The bottom line, it is a management problem. If they wanted the employees to stop the line to fix obvious problems they would. But its all about the money. The chances of having the dealer or owner fix the problem is easier than stopping the line. Probably cheaper to fix under warranty. And in your case. Slim chance, unfortunately.


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It has been repaired with new screws, Dicor tape, block of wood to set the screws and a gob of self leveling caulking.


Knowing more how ****ty their work is I suspect a new line added to the PDI: Walk roof and prob every corner with a stick to ensure 100% coverage of sheathing.
What is really scary is this was the opposite side of where the ladder mounts are. Yeah sure says the blind installers, one corner holding the ladder will work.
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:49 PM   #9
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Rusty,

Its a real shame some of the workmanship i see every day. Personally i couldnt sleep at night if i did work like this knowing someone would suffer from it.
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I have a 2015 3305 and had same problem same corner. The roof material was cut short and did not cover the end of the roof decking. This allowed what ever small amount of rain water to seep in there and rot the decking. I had to replace about a 10" x 10" piece of osb decking plus i bought a piece of the roofing material which I installed under the original roofing to cover the new piece of decking I installed otherwise it might happen again. The qualty control must be in a different factory than the one building these things. I also moved the wall in my basement to get more room and while doing this found just about every plumbing connection lose.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:51 PM   #11
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I feel your pain..
Factories cranking out crap!
Could make a list with at least 15 items that were lack of quality control when we . bought our Voltage 3200 new and that's just the one's I've discovered so far!
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:01 AM   #12
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Always been that way.

I bought a 2008 Dutchman that had similar issues. There was no sealant around the front window, where the roof met the front sheet metal, all the screws holding the trim that held the rubber down were sheared off and covered with goop. First time down the road in the rain I had water all over the front counter. I now have a 2016 Shasta that was put together in such haste, they increase the air pressure on the staplers so high that most went right through the paneling. They all talk about quality control, but all I see is appearance control.
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