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Old 06-01-2018, 01:30 PM   #1
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Looking to purchase a 4150TH and have questions

Thank you in advance for everyones help! My wife and I have been searching for the right TH and had for the most part decided on a Jayco Seismic 4113 model. We are not in a hurry so after deciding on the floorpan i dug into the forums and reviews and found lots of issues that are normal for any RV but their leveling system seems to be a serious issue for the Seismic. They use an electric jack system not hydraulic. I have a TT now and i am not to familiar with either system but after doing a lot of research hydraulic seams to be the way to go.

That being said I started searching floor plans again and came across the 4150 Epic and this looks like a better fit for us. I do not currently have a "Toy" to put in the back but plan on purchasing a Manx style Dune Buggy and i believe it will fit in that garage area.

My biggest concerns beyond the leveling system being adequate for the rig are overall quality for the unit. How do these hold up over time? We use our trailer a lot for our seasonal business and practically live in it for 4 month during the winter. The closest 4150 model to me is almost 700 miles away from what I can find. There are other Epic models we can see locally but we are sold on the side patio. I would think the quality and finish would be the same across the entire Epic line but everyone knows what happens when you assume anything.

If you made it this far thank you for reading my long post and I appreciate any feedback and advice from current Dutchmen owners!
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Old 06-03-2018, 12:38 AM   #2
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Thank you in advance for everyones help! My wife and I have been searching for the right TH and had for the most part decided on a Jayco Seismic 4113 model. We are not in a hurry so after deciding on the floorpan i dug into the forums and reviews and found lots of issues that are normal for any RV but their leveling system seems to be a serious issue for the Seismic. They use an electric jack system not hydraulic. I have a TT now and i am not to familiar with either system but after doing a lot of research hydraulic seams to be the way to go.



That being said I started searching floor plans again and came across the 4150 Epic and this looks like a better fit for us. I do not currently have a "Toy" to put in the back but plan on purchasing a Manx style Dune Buggy and i believe it will fit in that garage area.



My biggest concerns beyond the leveling system being adequate for the rig are overall quality for the unit. How do these hold up over time? We use our trailer a lot for our seasonal business and practically live in it for 4 month during the winter. The closest 4150 model to me is almost 700 miles away from what I can find. There are other Epic models we can see locally but we are sold on the side patio. I would think the quality and finish would be the same across the entire Epic line but everyone knows what happens when you assume anything.



If you made it this far thank you for reading my long post and I appreciate any feedback and advice from current Dutchmen owners!


Prior to buying our voltage, we owned a Jayco class C. The first thing I will tell you is RUN. Our experience with quality and customer service was the worst Iíve ever had. During 2015, the jayco was in the shop 11 months strait.

When we decided on a TH, we looked at several manufacturers and the side patio. Ultimately we went with the 3990 because of the overall quality. Road Warrior is nice, but not insulated near as well. The Weekend Warrior is the top of the line, but the do not have an actual dealership or service center within 500 miles.

Several things influenced our decision on the voltage.
1) full body paint. Nice upgrade and makes maintenance much easier.
2) 6 point hydraulic leveling jacks. A definite must!!!
3) large RV fridge, didnít want a residential because it requires 110 volt electricity to run. 4) 3-15k a/c units. We live in Texas!!!
5) deep shower. My wife is 6í and she had to bend down to use a normal RV shower.
6) Residential king size bed, not an RV king.
7) Largest fresh water capacity available. 160 gallons. We are a family of 6, and youíd be surprised at how much water you need.

Good luck!


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Old 06-03-2018, 01:28 PM   #3
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Thanks for the insight! IM 6' tall myself and our TT just doesn't have enough room to for me to sleep comfortably. We bought it 2 years ago and got a great deal on it so selling won't be an issue. Have you boondocked much? How does the generator do having 3 A/C units? Most of our camping will be with power available but I am looking forward to hitting some NHRA and NASCAR races so adequate power to run the A/C at night will be a must for my wife...
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:20 AM   #4
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Toy Hauler

Hey Grumpy, I'm 6'2" and my Voltage 3950 Toy Hauler would probably work well for you. You can stand up tall everywhere, including the master bedroom and the shower. The garage is 8 x 12.

We are looking to sell it and retire from RV-ing. We have it on Craigslist and you can view it here:
https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/rvs/6612923686.html

please contact me if you'd like to talk about it...
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Have you boondocked much? How does the generator do having 3 A/C units? Most of our camping will be with power available but I am looking forward to hitting some NHRA and NASCAR races so adequate power to run the A/C at night will be a must for my wife...
You won't be able to run three A/C units on generator or shore power. They both (Gen & Shore) are rated at 50amps which is likely really 42- 45 usable amps.

They put a load management system in them that is supposed to load balance and cycle units so all three are running but only two are in AC mode and the third is in Fan mode but I have had limited success with that and now only try two at a time.

Also the garage has no insulation under the floor so fuel vapors can vent to the earth so getting the garage cool is very difficult (also hard to heat).

Where we live it gets to 100F in summer days and you just learn to keep the garage closed and live in the front 2/3'rds of the trailer.

We have a 4150 and love it!
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You won't be able to run three A/C units on generator or shore power.
Excuse me?

I run all 3 ACs on my Voltage 3200 on shore power with no trouble at all. I donít use my generator that often, and have never tried all 3 when I did... so I canít speak to that. Now what I canít do is also use my microwave when the compressors on all 3 are running simultaneously. If I do, Iíll either throw a breaker, or Iíll get an error code on my thermostat showing a cutout.
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My 3990 has 3 ACs running every day here in Texas, no problems. Can't run everything all at once either.

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Ditto on my 3990; all three but careful on running anything else with them.
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You won't be able to run three A/C units on generator or shore power. They both (Gen & Shore) are rated at 50amps which is likely really 42- 45 usable amps.

They put a load management system in them that is supposed to load balance and cycle units so all three are running but only two are in AC mode and the third is in Fan mode but I have had limited success with that and now only try two at a time.

Also the garage has no insulation under the floor so fuel vapors can vent to the earth so getting the garage cool is very difficult (also hard to heat).

Where we live it gets to 100F in summer days and you just learn to keep the garage closed and live in the front 2/3'rds of the trailer.

We have a 4150 and love it!
You actually have 100 amps at 120 volts, or 50 amps at 240 volts. The RV 50 amp system is actually two 50 amp 120 volt legs. AFAIK they don't install 240 volt equipment on RV's, so for some unknown reason they call it 50 amp service.

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You guys running three ac's on shore power.... what sizes are your ac's?? From front to back I have 13/15/15. FYI I've never even tried to run all three... I will now
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