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Old 01-15-2016, 09:40 PM   #1
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I thought my basement was heated

I had to remove the rear wall in the basement to run some cables and found that the round heater vent was not hooked up to anything. I thought that maybe the heater hose had come off but there weren't any loose hoses. Guess the heat just drifts in from the main cabin through that vent. Disappointing.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:37 PM   #2
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Sounds like the blind installer at Dutchmen took a vacation day that day yours was done. He probably passed the tasking of putting in the coupling on to his best friend, the deaf installer who didn't hear him.


P.S. I am deaf as a door knob so don't anyone jump on me for picking on their disabilities, not their fault Dutchmen perfers our kind of installers. This is all in jest and comes from someone who is over a year of repair shop work in the 13 months of fine Dutchmen ownership.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:20 PM   #3
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These 4 season packages are made up as they go. The basements are heatd with spill air from the heating system.

Sometimes it's a ventilated duct, sometimes it's no duct tape on the duct and sometimes it's an extra hose.

I don't think that you want to be camping at 10 below then try and dump the tanks!
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I don't think that you want to be camping at 10 below then try and dump the tanks!
I don't want be camping at 10 below... PERIOD!
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Old 01-16-2016, 04:02 AM   #5
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I don't want be camping at 10 below... PERIOD!
I'm not living where it's 10 below...PERIOD!
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I'm not living where it's 10 below...PERIOD!
That's my philosophy! Unfortunately the company I work for apparently has a warped sense of humor and insists on sending this southern born and bred boy to work in NY in the winter time. Last winter I was up there and it got so cold my bottle of scotch started to freeze! (-27F) FWIW scotch will start to freeze at -16F. However I got my revenge when they sent a NY crew down to work in Jesup, GA Summertime temps there hit well into the 90's with 90% rh. I tolerate high humidity and warmer temps quite well.

I consider anything below 40F cold..

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That's my philosophy! Unfortunately the company I work for apparently has a warped sense of humor and insists on sending this southern born and bred boy to work in NY in the winter time. Last winter I was up there and it got so cold my bottle of scotch started to freeze! (-27F) FWIW scotch will start to freeze at -16F. However I got my revenge when they sent a NY crew down to work in Jesup, GA Summertime temps there hit well into the 90's with 90% rh. I tolerate high humidity and warmer temps quite well.

I consider anything below 40F cold..

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90s is fine, 100 is even OK, but the humidity, No Thanks.

40F is shirt sleeve weather here, it's a dry cold!
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While I am not a fan of really cold weather, I do enjoy it from time to time. We have had a fairly mild winter in Southern Maryland so far...the coldest has been 16 Farenheit. Surprisingly the Voltage has done very well. We have a 100 gallon propane tank filled by a local service, we have been average 25 gallons every two weeks or so. Depending on the what the boy wants, I supplement the garage with a space heater. I am thinking of adding a propane heater for next winter, as my propane price is a lot cheaper than my electric price right now.

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Seems like several threads with similar issues, and different outcomes of the same configuration of parts. Most like the OP here and myself have a vent on that w/d wall that serves no aparrent purpose, and looks to be not hooked up, and we have no heat in the garage, and are left wondering if the garage area was a heated/heatable area at all by design, despite the fact there are beds back there. Then recently, one posted that their garage vent is the only one that IS heating. I may have made the comment before, but i am still trying to figure out if the answe is A) YES - the garage was supposed to be heated, that is a heater vent, just isnt hooked up right / or need some addon to the rear dometic A?C unit, or B) NO - its just a vent, and you need to add an aftermarket heater if you want the garage heated.
I am hoping for A!. It was 19 degrees last time we camped and we dont like losing the use of the rear bathroom..
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Seems like several threads with similar issues, and different outcomes of the same configuration of parts. Most like the OP here and myself have a vent on that w/d wall that serves no aparrent purpose, and looks to be not hooked up, and we have no heat in the garage, and are left wondering if the garage area was a heated/heatable area at all by design, despite the fact there are beds back there. Then recently, one posted that their garage vent is the only one that IS heating. I may have made the comment before, but i am still trying to figure out if the answe is A) YES - the garage was supposed to be heated, that is a heater vent, just isnt hooked up right / or need some addon to the rear dometic A?C unit, or B) NO - its just a vent, and you need to add an aftermarket heater if you want the garage heated.
I am hoping for A!. It was 19 degrees last time we camped and we dont like losing the use of the rear bathroom..
I would not assume that most have a non functioning vent. In my V 3105, it provides heat. On a really cold day, with the doors closed, it does get cold in the garage. Leaving the doors open helps balance the heat across the trailer. I can use a portable heater if needed. I've not seen any vents for the A/C that are not on the ceiling, so I don't think it is for the A/C. I don't have a garage A/C, only vents from the main A/C.

I highly suspect your garage vent is a heat vent that was not properly connected. With all the postings about improperly connected A/C ducts, poorly sealed A/C units, improper heating duct work, and general sloppiness; I'm not surprised that your vent is non functional. To balance the number of complaints, please keep in mind the that very few people post in forums that they don't have any problems. People generally show up here (and other internet forums) because they have a problem they are trying to solve. It's easy to assume everyone has a problem when one reads the postings, but the population and sampling are not necessarily representative.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #11
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I have a heated garage, but the vent is behind the Washer, so it gives little heat, I also use a heater, when we have someone staying back there.....I saw a post months back, where someone ran Propane back to some heaters he placed back in the garage and it worked very well.....
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Old 01-23-2016, 02:33 AM   #12
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I would not assume that most have a non functioning vent. In my V 3105, it provides heat. On a really cold day, with the doors closed, it does get cold in the garage. Leaving the doors open helps balance the heat across the trailer. I can use a portable heater if needed. I've not seen any vents for the A/C that are not on the ceiling, so I don't think it is for the A/C. I don't have a garage A/C, only vents from the main A/C.

I highly suspect your garage vent is a heat vent that was not properly connected. With all the postings about improperly connected A/C ducts, poorly sealed A/C units, improper heating duct work, and general sloppiness; I'm not surprised that your vent is non functional. To balance the number of complaints, please keep in mind the that very few people post in forums that they don't have any problems. People generally show up here (and other internet forums) because they have a problem they are trying to solve. It's easy to assume everyone has a problem when one reads the postings, but the population and sampling are not necessarily representative.
To clear up my original post: the heater vent in the garage IS hooked up to the heater. The vent that is not hooked up to anything is in the storage area under the master bedroom; we call it the basement.
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To clear up my original post: the heater vent in the garage IS hooked up to the heater. The vent that is not hooked up to anything is in the storage area under the master bedroom; we call it the basement.
I believe the basement vent you are referring to is a wall vent that allows the movement of air around the basement....it was not meant to be a forced air vent.

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I have two of those in my basement wall, both on the same wall and in proximity of each other.


I taped them off, there's enough sloppy work in there that ventilation isn't a problem.
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Seems like several threads with similar issues, and different outcomes of the same configuration of parts. Most like the OP here and myself have a vent on that w/d wall that serves no aparrent purpose, and looks to be not hooked up, and we have no heat in the garage, and are left wondering if the garage area was a heated/heatable area at all by design, despite the fact there are beds back there. Then recently, one posted that their garage vent is the only one that IS heating. I may have made the comment before, but i am still trying to figure out if the answe is A) YES - the garage was supposed to be heated, that is a heater vent, just isnt hooked up right / or need some addon to the rear dometic A?C unit, or B) NO - its just a vent, and you need to add an aftermarket heater if you want the garage heated.
I am hoping for A!. It was 19 degrees last time we camped and we dont like losing the use of the rear bathroom..
We live in Montana and have kids that sleep in the garage when camping..and we almost always camp in the mountains. We used our unit from March through November last year and the garage was always freezing (spring and fall) Our garage heater vent blows enough air to almost feel it if you have your face pressed against it. Our master bedroom 2.5in vent was the same what FYI, that one was an easy fix since I didn't have to drop the belly (switched it to a 4" now it cooks us out of the bedroom). I want to drop the belly and 1. redo the garage duct, 2. Spray foam insulate the underneath of the garage floor, 3. Run a propane line back there (like Cale is talking about) and put in a cadalytic heater.
Have to find my dremel to cut the rivets that hold the underbelly up first.. Half of mine are rivet like and the others are self tapping.
Let me know if you have any additional ideas on garage heat, insulation, propane, or other important things to do while I'm under there.
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While you've got the belly off... might be a good time to solve one of the great mysteries: mapping out the tank heater switches with which tank they're supposed to be heating.

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I believe the basement vent you are referring to is a wall vent that allows the movement of air around the basement....it was not meant to be a forced air vent.

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But to the casual observer the vent can (and will) be misconstrued to be a heater vent when, in fact, it isn't anything more than a hole in the wall. How many potential buyers bought a Voltage believing those vents were hooked up to the heater? I know I thought they were heater vents.
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While you've got the belly off... might be a good time to solve one of the great mysteries: mapping out the tank heater switches with which tank they're supposed to be heating.


Wish I thought of that 4 days ago! It's all buttoned back up now. I too have just have a vent in mine. I also noted the ducting going to the garage is split in two places. I'm pretty sure there will be more heat back there now!
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I had to remove the rear wall in the basement to run some cables and found that the round heater vent was not hooked up to anything. I thought that maybe the heater hose had come off but there weren't any loose hoses. Guess the heat just drifts in from the main cabin through that vent. Disappointing.
I can't speak to anything but our new 3800. Ours has two of the vents in the basement walls you speak of however on our, if you remove these wall panels you will expose all the inner workings of your trailer including plumbing, electrical, a lot of construction debris and of course your furnace. As I was vacuuming up the stuff left behind, I did find a furnace hose that was left lying on the floor of this space to heat the basement component area. Therefore the heated basement is that enclosed area behind those wall panels and is just to keep your plumbing from freezing in inclement weather. The vents just allow that heat to vent out into the storage hold. Nothing more, nothing less.
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My ductwork in the basement has some holes, maybe 2" in diameter, cut into it to heat the basement. I just spent a week in Breckenridge, CO and I didn't take any chances. I cleared all the junk out of one side and ran a space heater in the basement. I also tackled the low point and fresh water drains by building small compartments (out of foam board) to cover them and then used zip ties to secure them to the valve/drains. I used 12V led lights in each one and it kept the temps in the 70's even down to 11F.
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