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Old 01-08-2014, 05:35 AM   #21
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how did you check the screw heads? did you look for them or use a tool (screw gun)

you sound like someone from another forum (Yamahauler)
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:13 AM   #22
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all we did is run our fingers across them and the screw heads fell off. A friend of ours with another unit his screws completely came out. I would also check the corners of your slide to see if they are separating. If you notice a problem start checking the rubber seal strips on the side of your camper for the slide that's where I found a very bad leak it seems like whatever they use to attach it did not seal and it actually came apart and was open to the weather. I found that problem in all 3 of my slides. The quicker you find it the better. I never thought I had to check a brand new hundred thousand dollar camper for leaks. I really thought the quality sticker on the back was truthful. We live and learn
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Old 01-08-2014, 02:21 PM   #23
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You've been flamed a few times since your posts appeared in this thread.

The majority of us have/had problems with the manfacturer's products. We've taken the time to post pics so others can actually see what the problems have been and are still current.

I'm interested in seeing the problems you have because at this time you have the worst problems ever posted here.

Posts some pix and the flaming will probably stop. Simple solution, not to your problems, but to the flames.
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Old 01-08-2014, 03:00 PM   #24
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I'm new so I put the pictures in a album. I'm not a proud owner so I don't think anything I write on here would sound good. It clear to me that dutchmen does not care about their customers safety or quality of life. They slam them together so fast it creates a nightmares for their customers. And then they put cheep tires on them. What family is going to put their loved ones in danger. Not me that's for sure. If dutchmen has the nerve to send it back to me it's going into storage and inspected by a state certified mold specialist and building inspector then I can hand it to a lawyer. If they will not deal with it I will and they will not like it at all. there is a code for the wafer board they build with and I'm sure my unit has blown it out of the ballpark.
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Old 01-08-2014, 03:56 PM   #25
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how did you check the screw heads? did you look for them or use a tool (screw gun)

you sound like someone from another forum (Yamahauler)
As some may recall from previous post, we purchased our 2013 3895 in april, and have been full timing since then. With the exception of a few minor quality/manufacturing and design issues we are extremely pleased. With that said, shortly after getting our trailer i spent two days going thru and checking as many bolts and screw as i could easily access (30 Years in USAF AC Maintenance in me) to ensure they were secure. I found three areas that had broken or missing screws and bolts. First, almost every screw holding the schwintech rails to the sides of the slides were loose. They all tightened up with the exception of a few that were over torqued when installed at factory and simply popped off when i went to turn them. Second were the screws that hold the slide channeling to the side of the coach. i currently have 2-3 screw heads missing from each section on all three slides. Some were lost during the trip home from the dealer, while the others popped off after applying minimal pressure. I was not overly concerned since they are staggered (no two in a row). They will be on our punch list for our first warranty visit unless i decide to fix them myself. Last area was the galley grey tank, and rear bath valve control lever mounts. During my first 500 mile trip one bolt head on each of the brackets broke. Additionally, one of the bolts that hold the fuel box back near the spare tire was sheared off. I went thru and replaced all visible bolts with better grade. No problem since.

I've been on this site for nearly a year and was curios that no one else reported issues with broken screws/bolts. Having participated in acceptance inspections of many of the USAFs new aircraft over 30 years i found this to be a common issue coming off the production lines. I would not expect Dutchman’s quality to be any better than Boeing or Lockheed Martin’s. I continue to complete this check with all new motorized vehicles/Toys to ensure all parts/pieces that I can access are secure before jumping on or in them and taking off.

While i can't speak to the validity of Voltagenightmare claims, l will say that screws/bolts were an issue I dealt with. On it's own i would rate it as a minor issue that can be easily identified and in many cases corrected by the owner. For those who have not yet done this inspection i would recommend they do it, and continue to accomplish periodic checks to ensure they stay tight/secure.

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Old 01-08-2014, 04:10 PM   #26
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I'm not sure that it is minor issue. If screws did not need heads on them they would make them that way. I think they are using sub standard screws. We are going to replace them all when its returned to us. I have owned many campers and never encountered screwheads falling off of the unit. I feel this is unacceptable behavior for a company that builds units for family vacations.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:38 AM   #27
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Voltagenightmare, What does where I work have to do with anything? Just wanting to make sure a person is legit, does not make my panties in a bunch. I like a lot of people on here have a sum of money tied up in my unit and only want to ensure that the value of our product does not drop by false accusations, if indeed you do have problems post the pictures and we will do all we can to help!
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:34 AM   #28
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Its amazing that you forgot you called me a scab and you made a reference to what I did for a living. And I guess you don't know that you never get nada value for a camper. So good luck with that one. And I'm not even putting all the issues on here. Its looks like they are finally are getting this worked out. I'm thinking I will see a brand new one very soon. So really I guess I was not making it up. Want me to tell you another one.... go on your roof and take the tank vent cover off. My pipes did not even go through the roof. You need a star head screwdriver. Try taking a level and a tape measure to you windows. The point is its not me it came that way. But at least there seems to be a end to this madness.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:39 AM   #29
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OK guys! This is the first (and I hope the last) that I have read such BS! We are all here because we own Dutchmen trailers.....some very high end and some "starter" models.

voltagenightmare...calm down, you have two posts on this forum and both not very nice....and this is coming from someone who has NUMEROUS problems with her Rubicon, from axles, tires, water leaks (numerous), windows replaced & the front cap falling off, just to name a few! However I did not use such harsh non-descript descriptions to my problems, I explained each one in detail, so everyone would understand my dilemma. David, your words where on the harsh side also....now lets play nice and shake hands......

We have always been a "fun loving" group here - if I want to read this kind of crap I can go to another RV site and listen to my Ford is better than your Chevy or I paid so much for my Airstream which is better than your Voltage!

Ok said my 2 cents......

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Old 01-09-2014, 02:27 PM   #30
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Again I was called a scab. I do not care who thinks they are better because of what they own. Do you see me writing about what I drive or where I live what toys I have. I think people who brag are insecure. Yes my unit is the top of the line and I'm very aware its just a camper. Keystone is handling my unit now and its been there for two months. I might see it again this spring. They told me that my unit is immaculate because of the way we took care of it. We knew it was falling apart but still we waxed it treated the leather and all the wood panals. Not because we thought it was the best but because we take care of our equipment. Its not about what we have its about the choices we make. Its our actions that count. There is no need for name calling. I'm a little surprised that you think I should not reply to someone calling me a scab. I travel all over this country and some states you just want to get out of them because of bad attitudes. I help people where ever I go even when I don't want to be there. Maybe I dont belong I do not brag or think I am better just because my camper has a higher number on it. I bought my trucks because I like them not for attention. I'm only here to help others I know how to fix my unit but why should I its under warranty.


I live in florida in a house and I have 2 campers plus his snd hers king ranch superdutys is that good enough or do you need my toys too ?
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:55 PM   #31
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Okay agree with you Nana & Poppy!
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One of the moderators needs to step in and end this painful bashing, flaming and complaining. I'm tired of seeing the rant so let's move on to something useful.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:41 PM   #33
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Agree!!
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That is all was trying to do......
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