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04-18-2014, 05:36 PM
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Fuel station
Just wondering if anyone uses the front fueling station tank for diesel to fuel their tow vehicle ? That's my plan so I don't need to add another tank to my F-350. Had a bed mounted 70 gal tank in my 06 F-350 which gave me a towing range of 1000 miles. This extra 30 gal would give me 65 gallons which would almost double my towing mileage of 300-350 miles
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04-18-2014, 05:48 PM
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That should work I'd think. I'd put me a big filter inline with the nozzle though just because of the stories of the junk left in the tanks.
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04-18-2014, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sundancer 87
That should work I'd think. I'd put me a big filter inline with the nozzle though just because of the stories of the junk left in the tanks.
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Good idea didn't think of that. Thanks Mike
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04-18-2014, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
Just wondering if anyone uses the front fueling station tank for diesel to fuel their tow vehicle ? That's my plan so I don't need to add another tank to my F-350. Had a bed mounted 70 gal tank in my 06 F-350 which gave me a towing range of 1000 miles. This extra 30 gal would give me 65 gallons which would almost double my towing mileage of 300-350 miles
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I don't see how your going to get the diesel fuel into that tank. The diesel nozzles are larger that the gas nozzles. The gas hole for your pump station won't take a larger nozzle. Also if I go to a pump that doesn't pump slowly enough my tank won't fill. With out numerous click on, click off, click on click off. Have to pump very slowly and hold the pump handle and my mouth just right while the guy behind me is wondering what the heck is that idiot doing.
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04-19-2014, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by arlan in arizona
Have to pump very slowly and hold the pump handle and my mouth just right while the guy behind me is wondering what the heck is that idiot doing.
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ME TOO! Very annoying.
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04-19-2014, 02:52 PM
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I don't see how your going to get the diesel fuel into that tank. The diesel nozzles are larger that the gas nozzles. The gas hole for your pump station won't take a larger nozzle.
If the fill tubes aren't welded to the tank, which I doubt, DesertRat could always replace them with diesel filler tubes. If they are welded they could still be cut and diesel tubes could be installed in the normal automotive fashion, hose clamps and rubber hose. A trip to the local junk yard would do it.
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04-21-2014, 02:48 PM
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Larger nozzles are only at the truck islands. I also have a Passat diesel & have no problem filling at the gas island diesel pump. Those nozzles are smaller then gas nozzles so you can't by mistake put gas into a diesel Passat.
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04-21-2014, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertRat
Larger nozzles are only at the truck islands.
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Yes the Huge nozzles are at the truck pumps.
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04-21-2014, 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sundancer 87
I don't see how your going to get the diesel fuel into that tank. The diesel nozzles are larger that the gas nozzles. The gas hole for your pump station won't take a larger nozzle.
If the fill tubes aren't welded to the tank, which I doubt, DesertRat could always replace them with diesel filler tubes. If they are welded they could still be cut and diesel tubes could be installed in the normal automotive fashion, hose clamps and rubber hose. A trip to the local junk yard would do it.
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There is a rubber connector hose between the tank and the fill tube on the trailer.
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04-21-2014, 10:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertRat
I also have a Passat diesel & have no problem filling at the gas island diesel pump. Those nozzles are smaller then gas nozzles so you can't by mistake put gas into a diesel Passat.
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Sorry, that just makes no sense at all. In that statement only diesel cars are favored. So it the diesel nozzle is smaller than the gas nozzle everybody in a gasoline power vehicle could easily insert the smaller diesel nozzle into there gas tank.
Perhaps it's a California Passat owner thing.
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04-21-2014, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertRat
Larger nozzles are only at the truck islands.
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Last comment on this. I just went to the gas station with my calipers. At the regular gas/diesel island the diesel nozzle measures 15/16" the gas nozzle measure 13/16". The diesel nozzle is 1/8" larger at the regular island. I did not measure the truck nozzle. I bet it is 1 1/8" Perhaps more.
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04-21-2014, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by arlan in arizona
Sorry, that just makes no sense at all. In that statement only diesel cars are favored. So it the diesel nozzle is smaller than the gas nozzle everybody in a gasoline power vehicle could easily insert the smaller diesel nozzle into there gas tank.
Perhaps it's a California Passat owner thing.
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I think its a diesel in a gas engine will smoke very bad but wouldn't damage the engine. Gas into diesel engine .
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04-21-2014, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
I think its a diesel in a gas engine will smoke very bad but wouldn't damage the engine. Gas into diesel engine .
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The gas nozzle will fit into your Passat fuel filler. I don't know how else to say this. Your giving wrong information here. Read the above posts. The gas nozzle is smaller than the diesel by 1/8".
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04-21-2014, 11:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soonernation
There is a rubber connector hose between the tank and the fill tube on the trailer.
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Yessir, I was able to take a look the other day.
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04-22-2014, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arlan in arizona
The gas nozzle will fit into your Passat fuel filler. I don't know how else to say this. Your giving wrong information here. Read the above posts. The gas nozzle is smaller than the diesel by 1/8".
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Yes I was wrong about the nozzle size. That said you can't use a gas nozzle to fill a diesel Passat because of the way the filler is designed.
Now back to the fuel station. I'm going to remove the filler and grind out the opening all the way. That will allow it to take the nozzle at the truck island just as my F-350 will. I will also remove the Unleaded fuel only sticker.
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