What do you do with your spring bars...

[Wanderer]

Look just like mine Coops!

[Cooper]

Yes they do Gordon...thanks again. They were simple to make and stop the grease from getting every where.

Coops

[rgolding]

In answer to the question about greasing the fittings on the equalizer bars - look for wearing metal. I didn't grease my smaller, lighter first set and found some metal filings when storing, decided it needed a little grease to reduce the friction. It also quiets things down a little bit.

[Wakeisland53]

You guys must be lucky your area has the Abs pipe, I have tried 4 places so far, nobody has it, only Pvc, which I know would work, but not as cool as the matching black, and paint would probably just chip off after awhile if I paint the white Pvc. I will try a few other places before I give up, lol.

[Wanderer]

Bruce,
ABS is used for drains while PVC is for supply. Home Depot or Lowes should have ABS but any plumbing store would carry it.

[Wakeisland53]

Yeah Lowes was one of the first places I tried, have tried two big plumbing supply stores, and some hardware stores, we just don't seem to have it this area. Some of the people at these stores are saying camper and boats use Abs, and that those type places might have it. Thought about trying West Marine across the bridge.

[knesdad]

If you can't find what you want, tell me what you need and I'll pick it up for you and send it you...

[Wakeisland53]

Thanks Dave I really appreciate that. I think I'm just going to go ahead and do it in the white PVC, the more I thought about it last night, I started thinking the colors not that big of a deal, the main thing is that I have something that works.

[Wakeisland53]

In case anybody's interested, just for the heck of it I looked on the internet to see if anything came up about the ABS subject, nothing sounds dangerous or anything like that that I see in the thread, but thought I would paste in one response that may explain why it's scarce in my area too. The person started the thread asking why it's not used as much as PVC, or why it's hard to find, something to that affect, just thought it was a little interesting. This is one of the replies:

"Aaron,

You are under the NSP Code which is a Code I do not work with much but in my latest copy of your code ABS was allowed.

There was a major ABS class-action suit many years ago which involved 5-manufactures and a couple of billion dollars. The standards for making ABS stated you can only use virgin ABS materials to make pipe and fittings. Eventually that was relaxed to include virgin regrind. Meaning fittings or pipe which was improperly formed could be ground down and added to the virgin materials.

This seemed to work fairly well until a supplier of the regrind sold the manufacturer’s ABS regrind which included old rubber, computers, telephones, ECT for filler and told them it was virgin regrind. Because of the non ABS materials which was added to the pipe the pipe starting to fail shortly after installation. The MEK in the glue would separate the ABS materials from the non ABS materials and you would get a "glue-line" crack. This made a lot of plumbers switch to PVC and ABS took a big hit.

As for the glues you asked about I don't believe any of them are code approved.

Mark"

[Cooper]

Wow... Really.......Virgin sewer pipe :shock: ....and I thought I was making a nice simple, effective TT mod. I hope I used the right glue!! :shock:

Coops

[Wakeisland53]

Lol, I'm sure there isn't anything wrong with it, sounds like it happend that one time and everybody freaked out, besides they are worried about it leaking, we just need it as a cover material for our purposes. That was from some kind of plumbers forum. Sorry Coops, didn't mean to bring a downer to the thread.

[Walleyeone]

My bars are T shaped on the receiver end and I use a small freezer bag over the T end with a rubberband around it to keep it on