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Old 08-12-2017, 05:18 AM   #1
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seems weird to me!

Ok so Ive had this Coleman CT192RD for about a month now. weirdest thing about it is, it pulls like a bitch. I previously had a 1994 Fleetwood Avion 34.5 5th wheel trailer dry weight of 11,250 lbs that pulled better than this little 4K lb travel trailer., anyone else have any similar problems? I know bumper pull is different from fifth wheel but this is some ****! I cant pull 65 mph without being in drive. I used to pull my Avion up to 70mph in overdrive with no problems. I dont get it, I may need to get this thing weighed out cause something dont feel right. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:02 PM   #2
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I'm gonna be watching this thread.

So, can you fill in the blanks that most of us have?

Tow vehicle?
Hitch?
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:18 PM   #3
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I cant pull 65 mph without being in drive.
I usually use drive to tow. Most newer trucks are 6 or 8 speeds and the don't tow anything in top gear. My tow/haul mode locks overdrive out completely. I tow a 5500lb trailer with a V-6 in the Tennessee hills without a problem. It will occasionally rev higher than I like, but that's what overhead cam engines do.
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I would check wheel bearings and electric brakes. Who knows, maybe the plug is pulled, and they are always on, but worn down enough to pull?
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Snakebitten. Ive tried filling in my vehicle information. It keeps telling me that it cant find the url to the page Ive inserted. so I got tired of trying after and hour. Ill try again sometime later. Tow vehicle is 1999 F250 Superduty Automatic trans, 5.4 engine 4.11 gears. Was getting 14 mpg pulling my old Fleetwood Avion 5th wheel grossing 18k lbs combined weight with my hypermax tuner on 91 octane fuel. This little coleman is supposedly 4420lbs, bumper pull, no equalizer.
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MartyG, I checked all that, wheels spin freely and cleanly, brakes engaging and disengaging as they should.Seems like the aerodynamics of this thing are the problem I think. cant think of anything else.
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Wildwest, I hear ya. These Ford modular engines like mine are famous for loving higher rpms, Ive basically just figured im gonna have to buy a whale tail or something to shoot the air over the camper for less drag, because nothing else makes sense. How can I have gone from pulling an 11,400 Lb fifth wheel getting 14 mpg and crusing to around 10 and struggling to hold 60 mph? has to be aerodynamics Has to be. I just thought maybe someone else has gone through this and has some helpful insight.
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I would say wind resistance (aerodynamics) is the issue. Several years ago, I had a F250 with the 6.0 powerstroke pulling a Cougar 5er weighing around 10000#. I also had a 6x12 enclosed utility trailer that I would sometimes use for my A/C business. The small enclosed trailer seemed to be just as hard to pull as the 5er at interstate speeds. I now have a 22ft enclosed trailer with a v-nose. I get better fuel mileage towing my Voltage than I do with the enclosed trailer. I don't believe weight has near as much to do with how hard a trailer is to pull than aerodynamics does. Especially at highway speeds.
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Ever picked up a 4x8 sheet of plywood and a gust of wind came?

It's a parachute!

Yea, travel trailers are a HUGE brick-in-the-wind.
Never pulled a 5er. So they're that much less wind resistant?
Never realized it.
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Never pulled a 5er. So they're that much less wind resistant?
Never realized it.
Depends how the nose is shaped. The old blunt nose type are kinda the same as an standard enclosed trailer. The newer rigs with the "radius-nose" do much better (IMO).

The biggest difference to me is weight distribution, as a 5er puts it directly over the rear truck axles... and therefore, provided the weight & balance are ok, you don't have what I call the "pendulum effect" of a bumper-towed rig.
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