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Old 05-19-2016, 07:22 PM   #1
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We are currently in the market for a Kodiak TT. Specially the 306BHSL. I was relatively sure on Kodiak until reading this site. Haha.

Seems as though lots of problems with the Dutchman brand. Is this common place with new TT, or does Dutchman/Kodiak have quality control issues?

Anyone with a 306BHSL can give us a personal review or Kodiak owners in general?

Thanks in advance, first time buyer of my own TT. Spent my childhood at the lake in my parents TT, looking forward to making my own memories.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:52 PM   #2
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We are currently in the market for a Kodiak TT. Specially the 306BHSL. I was relatively sure on Kodiak until reading this site. Haha.

Seems as though lots of problems with the Dutchman brand. Is this common place with new TT, or does Dutchman/Kodiak have quality control issues?

Anyone with a 306BHSL can give us a personal review or Kodiak owners in general?

Thanks in advance, first time buyer of my own TT. Spent my childhood at the lake in my parents TT, looking forward to making my own memories.
Welcome to the forums!

Every manufacturer makes a piece of junk every now and again. Dutchman has gotten better, but how much better is anybody's guess. Just do a thorough inspection of the trailer PRIOR to putting your money down and don't be afraid to walk away if it has too many major issues. Make sure you know how everything works and that it works prior to leaving the dealer's lot. Once you leave you don't have much leverage to get things fixed.

I see by your name that you are from Jonesboro, Arkansas? I lived there for a few years back in the late 1960's. My dad was a professor at Arkansas State. We lived over on Kay's Hill. If memory serves me our address was 212 Driver Ave. Haven't been back there in years, but may get a chance next year if we get the contract to work on the Frito-Lay Plant.

Good luck with your search and let us know what you end up with.

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Old 05-19-2016, 08:59 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forums!

Every manufacturer makes a piece of junk every now and again. Dutchman has gotten better, but how much better is anybody's guess. Just do a thorough inspection of the trailer PRIOR to putting your money down and don't be afraid to walk away if it has too many major issues. Make sure you know how everything works and that it works prior to leaving the dealer's lot. Once you leave you don't have much leverage to get things fixed.

I see by your name that you are from Jonesboro, Arkansas? I lived there for a few years back in the late 1960's. My dad was a professor at Arkansas State. We lived over on Kay's Hill. If memory serves me our address was 212 Driver Ave. Haven't been back there in years, but may get a chance next year if we get the contract to work on the Frito-Lay Plant.

Good luck with your search and let us know what you end up with.

Aaron

Thanks for the reply.

I figure you can get a lemon regardless of the brand, just seems like reading these forums more bad than good.

Any advice from current owners only benefit us.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:06 PM   #4
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We bought a Kodiak 240BHSL a couple months ago and have had great luck (knock on wood). We've taken it out about 5-6 times. The only concern that we've had at all is that on our last trip the Fridge didn't switch from electric to propane when we shut the generators down, but I'm not even 100% sure how it's supposed to work. We're newbies to TT's so we plan on looking further into that this weekend.

Keep in mind that the problem with a forum is most of the time people don't post to say 'everything works great' ... it's more to troubleshoot the issues.

I absolutely love our Kodiak. Had I known how awesome of a 'glamping' experience we would have, I'd of bought one years ago!
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:15 PM   #5
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Anyone can get a lemon car or camper. Just don't have expectations of perfection and you should be fine. I had several near heart attacks as I demand perfection from myself and everything I buy. After getting everything sorted out, and actually enjoying it on a few trips, we love it.

Owning a camper will also make you a handier person.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:18 AM   #6
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Thanks guys. Good point about coming to a forum to troubleshoot.

Being our first TT I just want to make sure we cover our bases. I'm beginning to learn the pre-buy inspection is very important. I download a guide for things to cover during the inspection. I'm sure the dealer is gonna love that!

The place we will be buying from is about 5 hours away, so any work needed to be done will be a drive.

Any other info on the 306BHSL or advice for a first time buyer is greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-20-2016, 04:07 AM   #7
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Thanks guys. Good point about coming to a forum to troubleshoot.

Being our first TT I just want to make sure we cover our bases. I'm beginning to learn the pre-buy inspection is very important. I download a guide for things to cover during the inspection. I'm sure the dealer is gonna love that!

The place we will be buying from is about 5 hours away, so any work needed to be done will be a drive.

Any other info on the 306BHSL or advice for a first time buyer is greatly appreciated.
I wish the term PDI would be used in the correct context. PDI is what the dealer is supposed to do when the camper arrives on their lot. They are supposed to be Pre-paring the unit for Delivery to the customer.

The day you go to pick up your new camper, is when your Pre-delivery Orientation is done.

When you buy a car, the dealer goes through the vehicle to set it up for the local market and ensure that if there are any deficiencies, they are corrected before the customer drives off the lot.

The RV dealers treat the process more like the final walk through of a new house. You walk through the house with the builder and look for deficiencies that you require to be dealt with before your sign the final papers. They rub their hands together with glee when they sneak one past you.

During camping season all the dealer wants to do is get those units off their lots as fast as they can. You take a camper off the lot while it has issues, you will hear every excuse in the book. Waitng for approval from Dutchmen, waiting for parts, having to schedule the work, which can take months.

Do all delaers operate like that? No, but unfortunately you usually don't find out until after the fact.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:21 AM   #8
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We have had our 300BHSL for just over a year and love it. Yes we did have some minor problems with the trailer that cropped up after we had taken delivery but luckily nothing I have not been able to fix myself. We bought our trailer from a dealer in Ohio (10 hr drive), but don't plan on driving back for servicing; will be using a local dealership that I have used for the past 10 years that I trust.

As others have stated, yes you do see a lot of folks on the site write about problem and very rarely do you see post of positive feedback but this forum is awesome for the amount of information, experience, and camaraderie that everyone shares. Folks here generally write about their problems so that they can learn from other ways to resolve it. Everyone here is so very helpful in providing advise and recommendations.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:21 PM   #9
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We bought a Kodiak 240BHSL a couple months ago and have had great luck (knock on wood). We've taken it out about 5-6 times. The only concern that we've had at all is that on our last trip the Fridge didn't switch from electric to propane when we shut the generators down, but I'm not even 100% sure how it's supposed to work. We're newbies to TT's so we plan on looking further into that this weekend.

Keep in mind that the problem with a forum is most of the time people don't post to say 'everything works great' ... it's more to troubleshoot the issues.

I absolutely love our Kodiak. Had I known how awesome of a 'glamping' experience we would have, I'd of bought one years ago!
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I wish the term PDI would be used in the correct context. PDI is what the dealer is supposed to do when the camper arrives on their lot. They are supposed to be Pre-paring the unit for Delivery to the customer.

The day you go to pick up your new camper, is when your Pre-delivery Orientation is done.

When you buy a car, the dealer goes through the vehicle to set it up for the local market and ensure that if there are any deficiencies, they are corrected before the customer drives off the lot.

The RV dealers treat the process more like the final walk through of a new house. You walk through the house with the builder and look for deficiencies that you require to be dealt with before your sign the final papers. They rub their hands together with glee when they sneak one past you.

During camping season all the dealer wants to do is get those units off their lots as fast as they can. You take a camper off the lot while it has issues, you will hear every excuse in the book. Waitng for approval from Dutchmen, waiting for parts, having to schedule the work, which can take months.

Do all delaers operate like that? No, but unfortunately you usually don't find out until after the fact.

Sorry for the misuse of the term, I think you guys get my point.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:23 PM   #10
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We have had our 300BHSL for just over a year and love it. Yes we did have some minor problems with the trailer that cropped up after we had taken delivery but luckily nothing I have not been able to fix myself. We bought our trailer from a dealer in Ohio (10 hr drive), but don't plan on driving back for servicing; will be using a local dealership that I have used for the past 10 years that I trust.

As others have stated, yes you do see a lot of folks on the site write about problem and very rarely do you see post of positive feedback but this forum is awesome for the amount of information, experience, and camaraderie that everyone shares. Folks here generally write about their problems so that they can learn from other ways to resolve it. Everyone here is so very helpful in providing advise and recommendations.
I have strongly considered buying from a place 10+ hours aways for the best deal, since I couldn't get it serviced any closer than 5 hours anyway.

Would love to buy local, but I can't find many dealers in my area selling Kodiaks or Aerolites.
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