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Old 01-15-2016, 08:53 PM   #1
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Hello I'm new to the forum

I have all manuals that came with my 5th wheel. Doesn't say one thing about the wiring schematics.
Any ideas where I can find the wiring schematics diagram for a 2005 Dutchman 5th wheel?

I sure hope so!


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Old 01-15-2016, 09:15 PM   #2
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I have all manuals that came with my 5th wheel. Doesn't say one thing about the wiring schematics.
Any ideas where I can find the wiring schematics diagram for a 2005 Dutchman 5th wheel?

I sure hope so!


Thank you!

Della
Welcome!

Probably don't exist, if they do, they won't share them with you. What are you trying to find/figure out?

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Old 01-15-2016, 09:38 PM   #4
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the kitchen wall is not getting electricity. This happens when its windy! We did troubleshoot the 2 outlets and all is good there. The wires look good also.

We think the issue must originate somewhere else but no idea where to look.
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wonder where I should look for the issue?
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:06 PM   #6
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I have a clamp on Klein tools Voltmeter that I bought at home depot. It has a wire break feature, where you can run the probe along the wire and it will emit a series of beeps that increase in frequency till you get to the break where it beeps really fast. You might be able to use it to trace the wires from outlet to outlet, from the inside and determine where the break is..


You might also try disconnect the suspect circuit wires from the breaker, and run 6 or 12 volts across each leg of the lines. a compass that passes near to the wires will deflect where the current is flowing helping you locate the wires and hopefully the break.
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Welcome to the forum.

Your kitchen is wired through the GFIC receptacle, check to see if it is tripped. If not push the test button while your on shore power and reset it.

If neither of those restore power check that GFIC receptacle is still good.
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Hi Jim,
I like your solution better...
I've been known to make a simple solution complicated..
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Funny story about this GFCI outlets...I had a Fleetwood TH that had a GFCI in the kitchen and the bathroom...we found that if the kitchen tripped, the bathroom had no power and if the bathroom tripped, the kitchen had no power...annoying at best.

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Cale,

I don't know why you would have had 2 GFCI receptacles. Normally there is one GFCI receptacle, usually in the bathroom, with the kitchen and exterior recptacles wired off of it.

Sounds like someone installed a redundant GFCI in the kitchen, with the end result the circuit working the way it should.

Way back almost before I remember, regular receptacles were used and GFCI was controlled by a GFCI circuit breaker in the disribution panel.

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Jim,

My Outback, like my Fleetwood had two circuits, the bathroom and exterior GFCI was on a circuit....and the kitchen had its own GFCI circuit.

The Voltage is quite interesting though. The GFCI is in the bathroom along with the two island plugs...then the wiring goes crazy from there. The grouping of circuits is very hit/miss...

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Cale,

I don't know why you would have had 2 GFCI receptacles. Normally there is one GFCI receptacle, usually in the bathroom, with the kitchen and exterior recptacles wired off of it.

Sounds like someone installed a redundant GFCI in the kitchen, with the end result the circuit working the way it should.

Way back almost before I remember, regular receptacles were used and GFCI was controlled by a GFCI circuit breaker in the disribution panel.

Jim
Many TT's today have two GFCI's, each feed 3 or 4 slave outlets. Over the years GFCI outlets got cheap while GFCI panel breakers got expensive. The modern method seems to make sure all outlets, not just kitchen and outdoor, are protected. However, I agree, there should be two distinct areas and branches. To overlap as described is just poor wiring.
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